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Old 01-05-2003, 08:51
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Cd burner that can override copy protections

Anybody know a Cd burner that can override copy protections?
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A Lite-on will copy all copy protections that are able to be backed up 1:1. Securom 4.8 and higher cannot be copied 1:1.
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damn, havent been here for a whjile, so the new securom is a b!!tch?
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so do you need any special software to copy cd's with a lite on to avoid the copy protection? sorry to sound like a noob but i sort of am
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You should use Alcohol 120% and read this article
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Re: Cd burner that can override copy protections

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Anybody know a Cd burner that can override copy protections?
It's not only a question like override; it's only the question if your copy-software can handle it; so can read and understand the protection.
And finally for making an image or 1:1 copy if can be realized with the burning_software.

Of course, if your CD-burner do not have enough languages like
DAO, SAO, TAO and/or with PQ, PW, RAW, the less succesfull burning results are available.

And finally, StarForce v3 and v4 SE (secret edition), PlumpInt and a few others (based on hardware equipment protection) needs newest software for reading (expected late 2003 or later) so
no-cd crack should be running around first, to make backup otherwise possible.

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i've got the trial version of alcohol 120% but will it work with my ancient hewlett packard cdwriter plus 8200 series burner that i got for my 17th birthday? my friend has the lite on and i'm jelous
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i've got the trial version of alcohol 120% but will it work with my ancient hewlett packard cdwriter plus 8200 series burner that i got for my 17th birthday? my friend has the lite on and i'm jelous
Have a look here - you will want two sheep in the EFM column.
If have no sheep you can't copy Safedisk 2 1:1 - you can try using Alcohol's "Bypass EFM Error" while writing - not guarateed to work thou.
If one sheep you can copy Safedisk 2.4 and below 1:1 - for later versions you can use Bypass EFM Error - good chance of it working
Two sheep - you can copy all versions of Safedisk - except Safedisk 2.9 (only very few burners can do it) - Bypass EFM Error should work for you
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bull****!
http://www.fileforums.com/showthread...threadid=51700

Go and get this one, it defeats every commercial copyprotection and is able to clone the Securom V 4.8xxx without twin- oder doubled-sectors. It uses the onboard gigarec-capability to write exactly the same sector-density which is found on the originals.


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too bad the cheapest price for it is around $100USD!!! lite-ons can be had from $20 or so after MIR.
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Have a look here - you will want two sheep in the EFM column.
If have no sheep you can't copy Safedisk 2 1:1 - you can try using Alcohol's "Bypass EFM Error" while writing - not guarateed to work thou.
If one sheep you can copy Safedisk 2.4 and below 1:1 - for later versions you can use Bypass EFM Error - good chance of it working
Two sheep - you can copy all versions of Safedisk - except Safedisk 2.9 (only very few burners can do it) - Bypass EFM Error should work for you

Can my Litey 52246S copy safedisk 2.9 in "brute" fashion, ie. without any sort of emulation??

Can it read pregap?

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bull****!
http://www.fileforums.com/showthread...threadid=51700

Go and get this one, it defeats every commercial copyprotection and is able to clone the Securom V 4.8xxx without twin- oder doubled-sectors. It uses the onboard gigarec-capability to write exactly the same sector-density which is found on the originals.


Plextor is back!

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Not so fast, mein freund.

As far as I know, NO writer whatsoever can reproduce density variation on a CD-R simply because CD-Rs have a constant sector density, making its variation PHYSICALLY impossible (It can only be emulated during write) - I read this somewhere on a DAEMON-tools related site. Only on CD-ROMs can this vary.
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Re: Cd burner that can override copy protections

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Anybody know a Cd burner that can override copy protections?
Burn what can't be burnt, Liteon rulez !
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yes...but do liteons compare to the quality of plextors..and if so..why do plextors cost 136 euros and liteons cost only 66 euros????
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yes...but do liteons compare to the quality of plextors..and if so..why do plextors cost 136 euros and liteons cost only 66 euros????

Good question, sacrebleu!

Perhaps the only reason why Plexy is so much more Xpensive than Liteon - and its only advantage over the latter - is the higher buffer amount (8 mb for the PX premium!) . Howver believe me, these days this is certainly not worth the extra cost. Indeed, what does extra buffer memory mean?

- No buffer underrun? Bullsh*t. Buffer underrun (burn-proof & clones) technology exists since time immemorial (2 years ago ). Whatever buffer amount the burner has, countless test-runs have shown that an underrun cannot occur on modern burners.

- Shorter writing times?? (now) utter rubbish. True enough, this could have applied a few years ago, but today modern systems (good mboard/CPU) can maintain sufficient data flow to writer to prevent a slowdown due to burn-proof activation, unless of course you launch a writing session in a highly intensive multitasking environment, eg. having clonecd, quake 3 and a divx encoding running at the same time . If so, surely enough with only 2mb, buffer will empty more often, triggering burn-proof/whatever, and global writing time will thus be longer than with an 8mb buffer. But then again, who would write a cd whilst playing a 3D game...

I personally own an LTR 52246S (plan to switch to 52327S) myself and have never encountered a slowdown while burning at 52x. As I said, it takes more than just moving the mouse pointer or playing an audio/video file to slow down the writing.

Besides, Litey seems 2 have the best clonecd compatibility. Even though the latest plexy (the premium) matches the liteons when reading protected data cds and correctly encoding EFM (in fact, both the PX premium and the latest liteys pull this off brilliantly), Litey still has the edge when reading copy-protected AUDIO cds. It also has much, much greater media compatibility: while Plexies tend to be quite fussy about CD-R quality, Liteon will take anything thrown at it, without making a coaster.

Moreover, Liteon writers have the same hardware quality & robustness as the Plextors (all the more so than both are assembled by the same manufacturer, oui monsieur! ).

One damper about the Liteon though: despite their hardware & chipset quality, firmware (writer BIOS) can be sometimes dubious, eg. I read once about a Liteon 40/12/48 firmware update meant to improve media compatibility but resulted in some CD-RW verbatim discs becoming "unwritable" until a yet newer firmware came around! Nevertheless, such events R quite seldom and personally I've never run into similar problems - in fact I even burn backups of protected game CDs on cheap generic brand CD-Rs and never got a coaster so far, as long as clonecd settings were appropriate .
-> In general, keep your burner's fw updated and you'll keep your burner happy

There U go mon ami, that's my take on the PX/LTR face-off. Both brands are deemed top-of-the-line, spawning off very quick & efficient writers.
So it's up 2 U if you want to $pend extra buck$ on a writer that has something of a name about it or just settle for a cheaper counterpart which makes more than a match for the Px in terms of performance, speed & quality.

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