two dvd games won't copy

[Maul128]

Hi all just signed up so give me a break if i ask stupid questions

the problem i am having is copying a couple of dvd games.

i am using a hp 200i drive which has been working no problem for most dvd games.

but these are the two i can not get to boot

Jedi Starfighter

&

Simpsons road rage

now i believe both these games have something to do with EA but i have heard that EA protection does not effect DVD games is this true or do i still need to patch these games.

if i do need to patch how do i create the cue and bin files for a dvd as cdrwin does not seem to support it.

Thanks in advance