newbie to game copying. help!!!!

[scinoiva]

i have Nero 5.5 OEM and want to know how to go about copying( for backup purposes of course!!) CD's. I have tried, but i get the message that both source and destination are on the same IDE bus. Can these be seperated or is there something that i can do to sort it out ie, override this.

[gh0sth@cker]

Don't use Nero to bakup your games, use Clone CD. ####://www.elby.org And don't try to copy them 'On The Fly' cos that's not great.
Get a copy of Clony XL - it will tell you what protection is on the game and what settings to use in Clone CD
Read the game to an image file from your burner (cos it can usually read the protections better) and then if you have problems copying the game read some of the posts in this forum. Chances are you are trying to copy a Safedisk 2 game which if very hardware dependant meaning not all writers can make perfect copies of it.

[Einstein]

Hi scinoiva
If your writer is burn-proof, you don't really have to worry about this message.
Put the tick in to not show this again & just ignore it.
You should also be able to burn "on-the-fly".
If your writer IS NOT burn-proof, then like gh0sth@cker says, don't burn "on-the-fly".
You will almost certainly get a buffer underrun & this will result in a drinks coaster.
Burn image to hard drive first, then burn this back to a cd.
Takes twice as long, but gives a reliable write.
By the way, when you post for help, include what cd writer you have aswell as the software you use. This helps us to give you a more precise answer.

Regards,

Einstein

[scinoiva]

got clony xxl and clonecd which worked a treat, will try to burn using nero later. cheers for the help.

[gh0sth@cker]

What's the point of trying to burn it with Nero (little chance) when you say Clone CD worked a treat ???

[Cinimod]

GhOst@cker, any chance of giving me some help? I'm a total Newbie to this V2 Protection and can't seem to get around it.
I have downloaded clony but cant understand it as its in german. and am using trial version of Clone CD (Does this make a difference?) i have read your tips to other Newbies about scandisk & Unscandisk and downloaded these too but i dont know how to separate the dll's? and also cant find the main exe? like i said i am new and apparenty thick aswell! please get in contact to give me the idiots guide to copying.
i have read the info @ GCW which helps a bit but does not go in depth enough to help someone like me please contact me @
[email protected]

[gh0sth@cker]

If you have a writer capable of 'correct EFM c####g' (can handle Safedisk 2), then use Clone CD to copy it. (Use Fast Error Skip while reading to an image file, and use ur burner to make the image file).
If your burner can't do correct EFM c####g then the new feature in Clone CD 'Amplify Weak Sectors' MIGHT help. You select this when you are writing the image file to the CD.

Both of these ways WON'T get rid of ATIP protection (which is on newer versions of Safedisk2). The ATIP is a small section on every CD-R that holds the manufacturers name, length etc. This ATIP isn't present on pressed Cd's, so if there is ATIP present then it won't play. Another of Clone CD's new features is it's 'Hide CD-R Media'. When this is enabled, it hides that the game is burned, and so you will be able to play it. The downside being you have to have this feature running in the background.


The other option you have is to use Unsafedisk which will get rid of the Safedisk 2 AND the ATIP check. Instructions:

1)Copy all dll's to a temp directory, along with the main exe as well. To do this use windows find feature to search the CD-ROM. To get all the dll's type into the search *.dll The main exe is the exe you start the game with - you'll have to find this out for yourself

2)Run safedisk 2 dumper on the exe. A data.bin file is created.

3)Run safedisk 2 Rebuilder on the data.bin file. This creates your new 'fixed exe'.

4)Rename the new file to exactly what the original one was.

5)To burn to a CD-R - copy the whole disk to a temp directory, replace the original exe with the new 'fixed exe'. Use Nero preferably to burn the contents of the temp directory WITH THE ORIGINAL CD LABEL. If the label on the original cd is "Fifa_2002", then your copy must have this exactly as well.