max payne!!!!

[Lil Half Swell]

That´s not true!!! The Philips can copy SecuROM, ´cause it can write DAO-PQ - SecuROM uses SubQ channel therefore the Philips 804 can copy SecuROM perfectly! The only thing you need is a cd-rom which can read subchannel data, ´cause the Philips writer can´t do that.

Hmm...well I didn't know that since I don't have any Securom titles, but like I said, the Philips can't read or write FULL subchannel information, only partial. So personally, I'd still use my Sony 160 if I were to ever come across any Securom titles.