Wave Compressor

[Masquerade]

I think the point FitGirl is making is that no matter how the audio sounds to the listner, a true lossless tool will create a file when decoding exactly like the file that was encoded. A 1:1 copy with no difference whatsoever.

[oo7]

Originally Posted by Masquerade

I think the point FitGirl is making is that no matter how the audio sounds to the listner, a true lossless tool will create a file when decoding exactly like the file that was encoded. A 1:1 copy with no difference whatsoever.

I know that ogg Vorbis is a lossy audio compression format, but for compression it just removes the frequency's that does not lie in (20-20000)HZ range so encoding will not result in any change in perceived sound quality.

There is no difference if you encode a 128kbps sound file to 96 kbps ogg vorbis
It is only measurable at higher difference in kbps.

and a 128 Kbps ogg vorbis will sound better than any other 128kbps audio codecs

and talking about file size, after decoding it would be 1:1 of original file.

that's why I said "without loosing sound quality" and it doesn't mean that it will do Lossless Compression.

[FitGirl]

Originally Posted by oo7

There is no difference if you encode a 128kbps sound file to 96 kbps ogg vorbis
It is only measurable at higher difference in kbps.

You're wrong. Many blind tests show that tons of people can hear the difference of 96, 128, 192, 256 etc bitrates on many codecs. Only Opus is better than heavly outdated OGG Vorbis. If your hardware/ears are not good enough to hear the difference - it doesn't make the output the exact as it was before.

[Ele]

Yes, Opus is a better audio format but no one uses this codec.

[oo7]

Originally Posted by FitGirl

You're wrong. Many blind tests show that tons of people can hear the difference of 96, 128, 192, 256 etc bitrates on many codecs. Only Opus is better than heavly outdated OGG Vorbis. If your hardware/ears are not good enough to hear the difference - it doesn't make the output the exact as it was before.

I am saying that a 96 bitrate ogg vorbis sounds better than 128 bitrate mp3.
I am not comparing a 128kb bitrate mp3 to 96 bitrate mp3.

and talking about outdated, wav was first time realeased in 1991, mp3 in 1995, and org vorbis in 2002
opus is released in 2012 but the main problem with opus is it does not support album art. so I still use mp3 instead of opus.