Best Compression Methods for 'Specific' Games. Q&A

[Razor12911]

I think putting games and their methods here is a terrible idea because there are so many of them, the wise solution to this is narrowing down the field, game engines for example or picking games as a series. for example, all Assassins Creed games are lzo compressed, use the method plzo+srep+lzma for all, because listing all the AC series just makes the thread difficult to read or the index you're suggesting.
For example I already see GTAIV and Max Payne 3, next we'll probably see GTAV, what we could have said all in all is pzlib+srep+lzma for all games that use the RAGE Engine which is what they use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockst...ed_Game_Engine
there is the list of games, what people could do is
put an engine with the link on a site like wikipedia that has list of games then put the method that should be used.

[elit]

Most of major Ubisoft games: -plzo(+pzlib)+srep+lzma
Most of major past EA games: -plz4(+pzlib)+srep+lzma
Most of major recent EA games: -pzstd(+pzlib)+srep+lzma

Or I will simplify it further:
Almost-everything-out-there: -ztool(x2)+srep+lzma

Case closed

[Chayan Manna]

Originally Posted by Razor12911

I think putting games and their methods here is a terrible idea because there are so many of them, the wise solution to this is narrowing down the field, game engines for example or picking games as a series. for example, all Assassins Creed games are lzo compressed, use the method plzo+srep+lzma for all, because listing all the AC series just makes the thread difficult to read or the index you're suggesting.
For example I already see GTAIV and Max Payne 3, next we'll probably see GTAV, what we could have said all in all is pzlib+srep+lzma for all games that use the RAGE Engine which is what they use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockst...ed_Game_Engine
there is the list of games, what people could do is
put an engine with the link on a site like wikipedia that has list of games then put the method that should be used.

Yeah, I agree with you, but there are some games which use same engine but same methods couldn't be applied on them.
For Example: Crysis 2 & Crysis 3 use same engine, which is Cry Engine 3 but pZLib can precompress Crysis 2 & for Crysis 3, the files are encrypted. So they must be decrypeted first before using any compression.
I know this is not a good example but it occurs sometimes.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by 78372

@Moderators
What about creating an index for this thread at the first post?

Originally Posted by KaktoR

I don't think mods would update a third index, it'a alot of work.

@78372
Although I always appreciate suggestions etc KaktoR has answered this perfectly, the idea is to make it easier for Mods not harder. Keeping Index's updated regularly can be very time consuming ... trust me I know Ive been updating one for the last 12 years.
We try our best to make the site easy for members as well but it is not always possible to please everyone.

Originally Posted by Razor12911

I think putting games and their methods here is a terrible idea because there are so many of them, the wise solution to this is narrowing down the field, game engines for example or picking games as a series. for example, all Assassins Creed games are lzo compressed, use the method plzo+srep+lzma for all, because listing all the AC series just makes the thread difficult to read or the index you're suggesting.
For example I already see GTAIV and Max Payne 3, next we'll probably see GTAV, what we could have said all in all is pzlib+srep+lzma for all games that use the RAGE Engine which is what they use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockst...ed_Game_Engine
there is the list of games, what people could do is
put an engine with the link on a site like wikipedia that has list of games then put the method that should be used.

I will keep an eye on how the thread goes for a few weeks, after a few weeks we will see what may be able to be changed to make it easier for everyone.
Suggestions or ideas are always welcome but as you know we cant always implement them smoothly and easily.

[doofoo24]

Originally Posted by Chayan Manna

Yeah, I agree with you, but there are some games which use same engine but same methods couldn't be applied on them.
For Example: Crysis 2 & Crysis 3 use same engine, which is Cry Engine 3 but pZLib can precompress Crysis 2 & for Crysis 3, the files are encrypted. So they must be decrypeted first before using any compression.
I know this is not a good example but it occurs sometimes.

any idea how to r-encrypted after decrypeted ?

[KaktoR]

Originally Posted by Razor12911

for example, all Assassins Creed games are lzo compressed, use the method plzo+srep+lzma for all

Have tested a while back with AC2, ACB and ACR. Didn't work on those titles.

[Chayan Manna]

Originally Posted by KaktoR

Have tested a while back with AC2, ACB and ACR. Didn't work on those titles.

Yeah, because the game engines are different.
For AC2, ACB and ACR the Engine is "Anvil" which don't use lzo.
Fro AC3, Liberation, ACBF, Rogue it's AnvilNext.
And for ACUnity, Syndicate it's AnvilNext 2.0.
AnvilNext & AnvilNext 2.0 may be precompressed with plzo, I think...

[Razor12911]

Originally Posted by KaktoR

Have tested a while back with AC2, ACB and ACR. Didn't work on those titles.

Either they are exceptions due to the fact that they don't use lzo or the tool does not support them. plzo is not universal.

[Chayan Manna]

Originally Posted by Razor12911

Either they are exceptions due to the fact that they don't use lzo or the tool does not support them. plzo is not universal.

Yeah, they don't use lzo.

[Razor12911]

Originally Posted by KaktoR

Have tested a while back with AC2, ACB and ACR. Didn't work on those titles.

Originally Posted by Chayan Manna

Yeah, because the game engines are different.
For AC2, ACB and ACR the Engine is "Anvil" which don't use lzo.
Fro AC3, Liberation, ACBF, Rogue it's AnvilNext.
And for ACUnity, Syndicate it's AnvilNext 2.0.
AnvilNext & AnvilNext 2.0 may be precompressed with plzo, I think...

Originally Posted by Chayan Manna

Yeah, they don't use lzo.

http://wiki.tbotr.net/index.php?titl...ed:Forge_Files

[Chayan Manna]

Originally Posted by Razor12911

http://wiki.tbotr.net/index.php?titl...ed:Forge_Files

OK, so, they use lzo but can't be processed with plzo.
I checked earlier in another site & they were telling that these game don't have lzo, That's why I posted the lines. Sorry for the complications.