Supreme Commander 2 1xDVD5 CIUV2

[Grumpy]

Without downloading the WatchDogs conversions and just going on the installer pics then again these are just images which are easily obtained from the Net, so you could say both conversions have plagiarised someone else's work just by using the pics in the first place. And my eyes are getting old but I can see a thanks to Bamse from pakrat, if that thanks was posted with the conversion or edited in later I do not know.

Originally Posted by Nickelangelo

if someone took the time to create this conversion ...... why hasn't he left everything as it is and just made a note "created by bamse, updated to latest version by me"?

Originally Posted by Nickelangelo

same thing for Wolfenstein - The New Order. you (grumpy) have "credits" for graphics of that conversion yet that conversion is a plagiated version of revo's conversion with "revolution graphic arts" removed.

I was writing my reply before you edited your post mentioning 'my' Wolfenstein Installer.

Glad you bring it up though cause it goes brilliantly with your above quote.

I Re-Created Wolfenstein using images I found on the Net, the graphic editing was done soley by myself, things like adding the Nazi Symbol into the Moon was done soley by myself, nothing came from Revo. The fact it looks like Revo's is because he too just found the pics on the net. But his installer had flaws which I didn't like. (they are mentioned in another thread so not about to note them all again here).
It was also only made for DVD5's.
Revo was asked to make changes to his installer ....... he chose not to.

So I myself recreated the installer to fix the errors, fix the flaws and fixed the attention to detail.
I did not edit or modify an installer made by someone else!
At no point did I need to edit out 'revolution graphic arts' using photoshop from any of the pics I found online because it simply was not on any of them? Some lowlife must have added that to someone elses pic they found on the net and tried to pass if off as thier own! Oh the shock horror of it all!!

So No I dont need to thank anyone for my Wolfenstein conversion except for yener. Pics didnt come from Revo, photoshoping wasnt done by revo, actually for my particular installer nothing came from Revo.
As for not creating it from 'nothing', when I first created a Temp folder for the conversion there was 'nothing' in it. I stared with the pics from the net, found all the pics i needed and put them in the Temp folder but before that the folder had 'nothing' in it. Yes I did in fact start that conversion from nothing.

[Nickelangelo]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Without downloading the WatchDogs conversions and just going on the installer pics then again these are just images which are easily obtained from the Net, so you could say both conversions have plagiarised someone else's work just by using the pics in the first place. And my eyes are getting old but I can see a thanks to Bamse from pakrat, if that thanks was posted with the conversion or edited in later I do not know.

sure, it says that original conversion came from bamse and i could believe that images were obtained from internet and not modified from original conversion if not for bamse's logo being present in both and then erased from pakrat's. was it really nesesary to remove bamse's logo or what ever you want to call it?

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I Re-Created Wolfenstein using images I found on the Net, the graphic editing was done soley by myself, things like adding the Nazi Symbol into the Moon was done soley by myself, nothing came from Revo. The fact it looks like Revo's is because he too just found the pics on the net.

i salute the idea of fixing bugs in the installer but recreating the conversion in 1:1 makes it look like complete plagiat.

simple comparison
revos autorun


your autorun


u can't deny that they look pretty much indentical the same. same autorun sizes, same button und language bar positions.

[BAMsE]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Without downloading the WatchDogs conversions and just going on the installer pics then again these are just images which are easily obtained from the Net, so you could say both conversions have plagiarised someone else's work just by using the pics in the first place. And my eyes are getting old but I can see a thanks to Bamse from pakrat, if that thanks was posted with the conversion or edited in later I do not know.

Images used in my conversion are MINE, can't be found on the net. They are combined from common gfx, multi-layered and distorted to match overall appearance. Even T-Bone on autorun is edited, becauce there is NO uncensored fuck you gesture on the net.

So FF... as T-Bone did... fuck you.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by BAMsE

Images used in my conversion are MINE, can't be found on the net. They are combined from common gfx, multi-layered and distorted to match overall appearance. Even T-Bone on autorun is edited, becauce there is NO uncensored fuck you gesture on the net.

So FF... as T-Bone did... fuck you.

Bamse, I did say "Without downloading the WatchDogs conversions and just going on the installer pics", obviously I was wrong, my apologies.

Originally Posted by KaktoR

if someone wants a DVD9 conversion of a already existing DVD5 conversion then there is a way to get that through external Setup.ini if the creator decide to not make these options, or? I think no one has a problem when someone comes up and post a Setup.ini file with dvd9/blueray/whatever options for the creators conversion (like i did on gatosky's Sims 4 conversion for example). Just my two cents.

I did post the file listing etc to suit DVD9 for Revo to make changes, he chose not to so I chose to do it. Again nothing was used from Revo's conversion by me, none of the pics were Revo's in the first place so I had no qualms doing the whole process myself. I 'did' create it and my name is not plastered all over it. Why would I put someone else's name on it if it was me who did all the work. I've said this before and will say it once more, I used Revo's Wolfenstein conversion as a learning tool as he used most of the features of Yener's script but the workmanship was sloppy to say the least. It was just a rushed job in my opinion. I have an eye for detail and fixed the flaws. The conversion was for myself only, it was never going to be released onto the net, but since Revo wouldn't budge on the changes I did it myself. It is as simple as that.

[KaktoR]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I did post the file listing etc to suit DVD9 for Revo to make changes, he chose not to so I chose to do it. Again nothing was used from Revo's conversion by me, none of the pics were Revo's in the first place so I had no qualms doing the whole process myself. I 'did' create it and my name is not plastered all over it. Why would I put someone else's name on it if it was me who did all the work. I've said this before and will say it once more, I used Revo's Wolfenstein conversion as a learning tool as he used most of the features of Yener's script but the workmanship was sloppy to say the least. It was just a rushed job in my opinion. I have an eye for detail and fixed the flaws. The conversion was for myself only, it was never going to be released onto the net, but since Revo wouldn't budge on the changes I did it myself. It is as simple as that.

Oh sorry, the point "erasing names" didn't goes out to you.

[KaktoR]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

And my eyes are getting old but I can see a thanks to Bamse from pakrat, if that thanks was posted with the conversion or edited in later I do not know.

Well, in my oppinion then there is no need to erase a name out of the picture. Seriously, don't get me wrong, but, for example, if someone wants a DVD9 conversion of a already existing DVD5 conversion then there is a way to get that through external Setup.ini if the creator decide to not make these options, or? I think no one has a problem when someone comes up and post a Setup.ini file with dvd9/blueray/whatever options for the creators conversion (like i did on gatosky's Sims 4 conversion for example). Just my two cents.

[Nickelangelo]

Originally Posted by KaktoR

Well, in my oppinion then there is no need to erase a name out of the picture. Seriously, don't get me wrong, but, for example, if someone wants a DVD9 conversion of a already existing DVD5 conversion then there is a way to get that through external Setup.ini if the creator decide to not make these options, or? I think no one has a problem when someone comes up and post a Setup.ini file with dvd9/blueray/whatever options for the creators conversion (like i did on gatosky's Sims 4 conversion for example). Just my two cents.

exactly. i did not make any conversion so far. i am not familiar with the process and i am not that skilled with ps. if i ever do, i will not claimi that i created the graphics from nothing but if i took the time to look for the pictures, make something shiny and nice and put in that conversion that it was me who compiled everything, i think it should remain there. and then if someone wants to update the conversion, thats ok. take credit for modifying it but do not remove my credit for making it in the first place.