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Old 29-08-2011, 06:29
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OK, OK... At the first sorry for this mess, at the "second first" i know where the problem is. Nobody's noticed the error window isn't black like the rest of Inno Setup? I've realized that todey, checked the "unins000.exe" file and bingo! It comes from original setup, not Inno. During the instalation of conversion Inno creates its own "unins000.exe" and "unins000.dat", but the first one is created at the beginning, the last one at the end of process.

so also the original "unins000.exe" (which overwrites this made by Inno at the beginning) and "unins000.dat" (which is overwriten by this made by Inno at the end). As a result in installation dir there is original .exe and Inno's .dat
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Lemme see if I understand...
You mean that your uninstaller haven't worked properly because the "unins000.exe" comes from... A-HEM... your game folder... and was included along the game files when you did the conversion?

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And then you talk THIS about us!
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I've reported some issue to help you make the installer more reliable on particular case but you clamored and accused me of bad intention.





Allright, people... some TRUE words of advise...
Everytime you do these "peterf" conversions:
  1. Install the game.
    For STEAM releases, it's interesting to apply patches and the like.
  2. Make a BACKUP of the game folder. It'll help you a lot!
  3. Read the conversion
  4. READ the conversion
  5. READ THE CONVERSION
  6. Do the conversion just after understand all the steps, but this time, ignore all and every "uninstall"-related files.
    Mainly "unins000.exe" and "unins000.dat"
    , as the new setup will create them for you.
  7. Uninstall the game before testing your all new installer.
    Try these software if "uninstall" becomes your enemy (Or just use them):
    • Revo Uninstaller or similar tool will uninstall the game with original installer AND remove all leftovers - Even if uninstaller fails;
    • cCleaner's registry cleaner to remove any "registry" leftovers;
    • for games with .MSI (Or .MSI-based) installers, The Windows Installer Clean Up is what you need.
  8. test BOTH install and uninstall features from your the new installer.
    But just to be safe, install it in ANY ANOTHER FOLDER.
    DO NOT use neither the "default" one provided by the setup, nor the "previous" folder where it was installed.
    • Conversion is working? Good! BURN TO HELL!
    • Conversion is NOT working? Now you know why you did a "BACKUP".



Now we'll live in Peace of (Insert your god here. If none, well... live in peace. )... Amen.

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Old 29-08-2011, 16:06
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Yes KillerOh, you understand quite well. But only deads don't make mistakes. I've made tens of conversions and never failed, until now. So yes, it's my blame, but when I've said the uninstaller returned an error, nobody took pains to read what this error means. Nobody realized such error even don't exist in Inno. Instead, you said I should take the conversion what it is, although error clearly sad there is a problem with generated uninstall script. However, one conclusion could be drawn: "take the conversion as is, because peterf1999 can't be wrong". And now one love fella
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Old 29-08-2011, 21:57
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Yes KillerOh, you understand quite well. But only deads don't make mistakes.
Quite true.

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I've made tens of conversions and never failed, until now. So yes, it's my blame, but when I've said the uninstaller returned an error, nobody took pains to read what this error means. Nobody realized such error even don't exist in Inno.
Actually... NOT QUITE...

**MAYBE** the "utCompiledCode record" don't register as an error in normal Inno setup installers (Like the ones we can do with the Inno's Wizard assistent and no much "cosmetics", just simple and plain code), and in fact, there's no "utcompiledcode" word avaliable in Inno Setup manual.

HOWEVER, in several Inno Setup installers, it seems to happen when there's an OLD unins000.exe/dat. Examples for "known" software are WinVista//Seven codecs (Despite I always thought they were MSI-installers ONLY), Spyware Doctor and Any Flv Player 2.2.1, to quote some. Here's a google search. =3

It looks like "peterf" installers aren't the only ones with this error, and unfortunately, the "avaliable" solution for these above was to:
- Delete the "unins000" files
- And re-install in the same folder

Yet, it's "no good" for his custom installers: Unless you know which regkey the autorun reads to his "enable//disable buttons" feature for a manual remotion or try a "Brute-force uninstall" (Like Revo Uninstaller in extensive mode or manual deletion + CCleaner or any another reg cleaner), you'll be UNABLE to re-install it. After all, for these custom installers, the autorun menu IS the setup!

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Instead, you said I should take the conversion what it is, although error clearly sad there is a problem with generated uninstall script. However, one conclusion could be drawn: "take the conversion as is, because peterf1999 can't be wrong". And now one love fella
As you noticed in your PREVIOUS post, this is NOT an error with the generated script itself, but with how you did the conversion. Even because the way Inno Setup installers generates their uninstall files are "by design" (The way it works with "peterf" installer is the very same with all and every another Inno Setup installer).

Plus, despite the thanks I gave to peterf for... "his" installers, he never ever explained a bit of the codes, and after he said that "it's not his work", it just make me mad as hell with him and his "closed-source setups".
Everything nice he did for "Several-DVD9-2-Several-DVD5", like these setups, are ONLY with him. So ONLY him can fix the mess, yet he doesn't seem to be fully interested to neither share his knowledge nor that much interested to fix the mess. Yener90, for the other hand... And his scripts are also top-quality!

Due to this, we're all "doomed" to "take the conversion as is, because peterf1999(...)" stands correct. Yes, we're pretty dommed... ¬¬

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Old 30-08-2011, 17:02
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You mean that your uninstaller haven't worked properly because the "unins000.exe" comes from... A-HEM... your game folder... and was included along the game files when you did the conversion?
NEVER include the unins*.exe or unins*.dat files from a previuosly installed game, when doing ANY DVD9 to DVD5 conversion. Move those files out of game dir, do the conversion with the rest of the games files, then move them back & uninstall normally. Then test the DVD5 Conversion ISO's for install / Uninstall. Never had an issue yet, but havent done this conversion as yet. Still working on another project.

Yes, I know peter has been very reluctant lately to post the full details of his latest conversions & hasnt responded much to questions regarding his conversions. He may be away, will just have to wait & see if he responds.
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NEVER include the unins*.exe or unins*.dat files from a previuosly installed game
I've never seen steam games with those files
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I've never seen steam games with those files
It depends. Have you ever installed from SKIDROW before?
Sorry, BAMsE, but there are a few ways to someone find these files among the game files for STEAM titles - Even from physical media:
  • You installed the games with custom installers (Like the ones "created" by Peterf1999)
  • Your "version" comes from SKIDROW (Almost all SKIDROW "scene releazes" of games in STEAM are repacked in very basic Inno Setup scripts)
  • Your "version" comes from a repack, like Black Box (These re-packs uses advanced scripts that looks like the ones done by Peterf. Well... we can find such installers in FreeArc russian forums anyway. Here for "not much" info =3)
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