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Old 16-06-2007, 09:46
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everybody know until that time another trainer will be relased so the guys at CH should burn in HELLL....YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
wow! The fat little momie's baby having a big tantrum now?

You know some people may want to make some money out of they work first. They nice enough to make it public after a certain time. But you dont probaly know what i am talking about since you mom pay everything for you and that the game cc3 you have, you probally dint't even pay for it.
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Old 16-06-2007, 13:04
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wow! The fat little momie's baby having a big tantrum now?

You know some people may want to make some money out of they work first. They nice enough to make it public after a certain time. But you dont probaly know what i am talking about since you mom pay everything for you and that the game cc3 you have, you probally dint't even pay for it.
I appreciate their work and understand their effort to create a trainer..

But...You know...In the free world of free web...the logic of publishing content with money...is not so clever...

If they serve it free..the site will sure get more visitors...thus more ad thus more money...

I have my hard earned money in my pocket...and mom is picking up tea in the village to earn money for the educational needs of my sister...

I won't pay even a cent to those....I will just wait here either for another trainer or the trainer there to be released to the public...

What I learn? Paitence...
What I didnt lost? 15 dollars of hard earned bucket...

I am not that rich or stupid to pay 15 dollars to a single Trainer...
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Old 16-06-2007, 14:01
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In your example, if all those lots of visitors only visit the site because it's free then they won't buy anything from the advertised sponsors either. So, in the long run, those people running the site won't win anything with making their downloads free. And advertisers are indirect money, as opposed to direct money coming from their own customers.

You don't have the right to tell people to give away their software for free. You do have the right to find a free alternative or create your own instead, though, or not use such software at all. I do believe in free software and I do give away mine for free but I'm an author and you're a user so our attitude cannot be compared...

Let us close this discussion here. Thank you.
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You forgot to close, maybe cause I didnt have my word in the matter.


The person no doubt who has done the latest CH C&C3 trainer is Caliber who gave away free trainers weeks back.

And if he wants to go ahead and make a bit of money from his hard work then so be it.

Making trainers aint easy, it takes knowledge, it takes time and it takes patience.

I know what its like, about 5-10% if lucky of people who use your trainers are grateful and take time to acknowledge your work, the other 90% are ungrateful or ignorant to the fact they are using the wrong patch version for the trainer or dont know so you get agro from them.

Its one of the most unrewarding jobs on the net when doing them for free, hence why I havent done one for ages, I dont have the time and I dont have the patience to sit and listen to little girls cry cause they cant get it to work and didnt bother to read instructions etc.

So if caliber wants to make money from it to get some sense of recognition and support, good for him. But as per usual with the kids out there they think everything is for free, when it is NOT. "Oh I can get my games for free on my super duper broadband, so everything should be" this is what kids learn now and one reasons they beg mum and dad for broadband.

And they are usually the first to complain when something doesnt go right.

And dont forget one of the greatest, in my opinion, of trainer makers was a part of CH as well. And I dont blame him, if I was on his level I probably may have gone the same way. Now hes gonna do it himself and cash in on it, good for him I say.
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Old 16-06-2007, 22:07
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There, done. i took 2 hours to do a small +1 trainer for the cc3 1.05 that allow to boost money. I guess that should be good enought for an rts.

But since i couldn't attach a 40kb rar file , you will have to wait one or two day and it should be posted on gcw.

since it took me almost 2 hours (searching value, code injecting, testing, writing down all the byte, writing the prog in C, creating an icon and a background, testing a couple of time with the game that take ages to load). Maybe you can give at least a 2 dollars to a charity organisation of you choice. Deal?

Oh, and dont flash anything. you'l probally make mom really angry if she have to buy another video card or a motherboard

Of course, that trainer wouldn't be possible without the precious advices of DABhand and tippeX.

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Old 17-06-2007, 15:59
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You forgot to close, maybe cause I didnt have my word in the matter.


The person no doubt who has done the latest CH C&C3 trainer is Caliber who gave away free trainers weeks back.

And if he wants to go ahead and make a bit of money from his hard work then so be it.

Making trainers aint easy, it takes knowledge, it takes time and it takes patience.

I know what its like, about 5-10% if lucky of people who use your trainers are grateful and take time to acknowledge your work, the other 90% are ungrateful or ignorant to the fact they are using the wrong patch version for the trainer or dont know so you get agro from them.

Its one of the most unrewarding jobs on the net when doing them for free, hence why I havent done one for ages, I dont have the time and I dont have the patience to sit and listen to little girls cry cause they cant get it to work and didnt bother to read instructions etc.

So if caliber wants to make money from it to get some sense of recognition and support, good for him. But as per usual with the kids out there they think everything is for free, when it is NOT. "Oh I can get my games for free on my super duper broadband, so everything should be" this is what kids learn now and one reasons they beg mum and dad for broadband.

And they are usually the first to complain when something doesnt go right.

And dont forget one of the greatest, in my opinion, of trainer makers was a part of CH as well. And I dont blame him, if I was on his level I probably may have gone the same way. Now hes gonna do it himself and cash in on it, good for him I say.

man that was one of the nicest posts i read here dab. thanks for the kind words and i am sure *shp would be pleased with your comments. it's great to see someone who has been there and "gets it". i'd post work here but i am bound contractually to keep the work for CH for a certain period of time. i am sorry to those who are upset that we charge for the work for a small period of time but we always release the trainers for free after a few weeks. i just spent an inordinate amount of time this father's day weekend working on more trainers during late hours so i wouldn't take away time from my family this special weekend (my son and my own dad). it's not fun work let me tell you. at any rate, i appreciate the kind words and i wish all the other trainer makers and coders out there well.

best,
Cal
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I see it better and I appreciate your work more and more....you are totally right to do that..

BTW thanks for releasing the trainers to the public....
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