Rise and Fall Civilizations at War

[sylvio]

You are "lucky" with the CD-version, becouse the StarForce DVDs are very
buggy and the protected CD are the easiest way to make your Backup
(from the Original Media). Ofcourse sometimes holds 3-4 hours (!!) to make
a good copy from the DVD. Sure with the CD-version was only bad to
swap the CDs more times under the installation... So I only make a good
CloneImage from the CD and make a CD to DVD conversion, includes the
perfect CloneImage on the DVD.
So, I have the DVD version of Rise and Fall. 1st I make a CloneImage and
write it to a DVD (MDF/MDS, in UDF file-format). Yep, next arrived the 1st
patch version 1.09 and it HAS WORKS with my created CloneDVD.
BUT 2nd v1.12 and 3rd v1.15 are NOT!!! This is terrible, but I COULDN'T TO
MAKE a 2nd GOOD CLONEDVD with Alcohol/Blindwrite 6 for the new updates.
(after 18-20 hours of tries I lost my brain). This is my looong story with my
RNFCAW DVD....

[Joe Forster/STA]

I was told that, currently, Pioneer DVD-burners are the best ones for gamers who want to make usable copies of their original games!

I've always trusted the Pioneer drives. Haven't failed me yet. I'm definately a happy Pioneer Writer user. Being a computer tech as well, I've always recommended my customers to Pioneer. Being a big audio electronics based company, always have been suprised with their work in writers. Can't say much for Gigabyte. I can say that their really good with motherboards, but for graphics cards and network based hardware... chuck it in the bin lol.

And yes, CD's are a pain in the butt to change everytime. But partly my fault for not looking carefully at the cover when I bought it lol. I guess being unluckly in that sense i got lucky anyway