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hmm, well with the original disk, it should work... perhaps you've messed up something in the registry.. what error do you get?
did you try other anti blacklist programs..? perhaps secufix from the curerom site could help... kinda need more info before i can help m8
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@atlana: Try installing the game on another PC (friend, school, workplace, whatever
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ok, here's the gist (full version here: http://www.ultimate-eaw.com/componen...79/topic,589.0) of my problem: i've EAW since it came out (even the Special Ed version w. the fancy litle plastic eathstar ).Everything worked peachy for months. about 2 weeks ago, i found that Ultimate EAW mode (under the URL above), a nice, canon-compliant Mod. It dosent make changes to the exec/DLL's at all, it only adds XML, LUA-scripts and 3D-art/soundFX files and starts it up w. a command-switch like "\\Empire at War\GameData\sweaw.exe" MODPATH=Mods\UEAW_v3_2_2" thats it. The mod ran fine, no crashes no glitches - even worked fine w. the trainer (ya, i know, i cheat :P) last FRI it just quit starting up via the usual desktop-shortcut, then i worked around that (being lazy as i am) and i started it via CMD/RUN-line. Worked about two times. since then, nada, nichts, nothing! Not even a fracking error-code/-msg! If the disc is NOT in the drive it was installed from, i get the usual error "ENTER DISC - RETRY/CANCEL". If the disc is in the drive, the mouse-cursor changes for ~500ms to "SYSTEM OCCUPIED" (which is arrow w. sandclock, opposed to SYSTEM BUSY for sandclock-only display) and thats it. Not even the CPU-load jumps beyond 20%. So i uninstall the UEAW-mod. Zero results So i uninstall the whole EAW, reinstall EAW, apply lastest patch (v1.05) reinstall mod. Zero results. uninstall everything again, reinstall just EAW+patches. Zero results. knowing SOME of the computer junk, it appeared to me that SecuROM v7 must be screwing up SOMEWHERE, since the disc authentication dosent kick in since the drive dosent spin-up to try to find the disc! Even the registry entries of the game are fine/correct (path, installed Y/N, CD-path, installed-path, patch-versioning) since it was (Murphy again) long "LaborDay weekend" in the USA, i had to wait till TUE. So am calling LucasArts support-line......[mirror-mirror on the wall who waited the longest of them all?]......oh miracle, am NOT talking to "Joe" in Bangladesh, India - a real american (sorry, couldnt resist).after a long forth and back, me actually telling HIM how the games "inner workings" proceeds in the startup, checking w. registry entries, and teaching him a thing or two about SecuROM's "pain-in-my-ass functions", and mutually realizing that i do NOT have the "GENERATE REPORT"option have in the context-menu (rightclick) of the EAW-main exec; he plainly states that he cant help me, since LucasArts JUST *licences* their technology from SecuRom corp. and that i'm suppose to call them, and then he wished me happily a great day since he finally found a way to get rid of me, since he couldnt help me. So am calling SecuROM corp...voicebox..."leave email and state your problem" - frack you! i think.... so am digging through my box myself. Finding out that securom is a service. Strangely the service is "off" (manual + not started) manually starting fails w. "no device or servicess associated/attached to this service" even though the USSecuACCESS7.exe in the \\win\system32\ dir was present. Killing then the service w. "SC DELETE MYACCESS7" command (yes, i run XPpro+SP2), making sure its gone by checking device-manager via "set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1", and via "tasklist /svc" command. then killing out the respective drivers out of the HKCR\exefile\shellex in the registry (namely the cmdlineext0X.dll entries and associated files). DAEMON and my KASPERSKY A/V had been temporarily turned off to get it started up. but NADA still!!! I also tried the KRKsecurom loader v1.2 (asr.exe -r Games\Main.exe) but still nothing. *at end of my wisdom* any ideas? and no, my box is 100% virus-free. other games (like CivCity ROME, or City of Villains or SPELLFORCE 2 to name a couple modern ones) run perfectly fine. cheers @ PS: Joe forster: like my tag-line "move *.COM; *.GOV >NUL" better now ? it was/is ment about to get rid of all the "establishments" in corporate/govermental means that (sort of) screw us over as it's going on today (keywords AT&T+NSA, Bush+eavesdropping, Katrina+FEMA and more).
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hmm okaay, so only the asr/alkisecurom ran, that doesnt mess with the registry afaik, no securom disk check though points to other things... yet no messageboxes appear from securom... that is indeed odd, as i've never encountered securom doing a 'silent exit' (it only does that if you are already running a securom'd process)..
best guess i could say is to try booting into safemode, then try running the exe, if it gets to the cdcheck etc.. then the problem is with the system (some driver, something...) if not, then the problem could be securom.. either way ... try emailing the securom support instead of voicemail... email wont cost as much and you'll probably have better success secufix is on the curerom site... www.curerom.net last time i checked you can make the generate report thing appear again i think if you run the exe again (it will then add in the shell components)
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TippeX;
ok, done as you suggested w. the safemode. This is what happened after trying to run the EAW in SAFEMODE i get a funky-looking mousecursor (looks like a quarter of a grey disc w. a black orbiting bar around it) it DOES start up but then i get bitched out (error msg) about - naturally in SAFEMODE - "D3D surface renderer not available" and - naturally again - it quits on me. So that tells me that SOMETHING is blocking/preventing the SECUROM disc-check. I rebooted into my usual user-account (normal winXP mode), and try to start EAW up, but still no results. I DID got indeed the "LAUNCH ANALYSIS" context menu back, which i still cannot run in regular winXP mode, only in SAFE MODE, which generated the "AnalysisLog.sr0" 148KB file in C-Root. For shits and giggles i bought the game "Sword of the stars" (being the RTS fan, and knowing it's using secuROM v7 too) installed it, tried to run it and - NADA/NOTHING - too, but SotS crashed out w. a FATAL ERROR msg-screen (not a BSoD) i also made a 2ndary useraccount w. admin-rights, in hope that the USER-portion of the registry might be screwed over, but to no avail/effect. Same Problem. I trieds to run the SECUROM cleaners from CUREROM.COM (namely CUREREG and CURESECUROM). CURESECUROM found some files/entries and told me that it cleaned them out, and CUREREG could not find any "illegally locked/manipulated" registry entries. 3 Questions: 1 does anybody know whats in the "AnalysisLog.sr0" file ? looks awfully encrypted that stuff (like an assembler/binary file)2 being SECUROM a "generic" protectionsystem, there must be a separate "generic installer"-package of SecuROM v7, or not? since in the game's exec's keys/signatures determine what suppose to be on the relevant game-disc's.Where can i find such generic installer? 3 could it be, that KASPERSKY Anti-virus, having the feature of PROACTIVE DEFENSE (which includes "Application Activity Analyzer",""Registry Guard","Application Integrity Control (MD5)" and other proactive features) could block the execution/installation of SecuRom v7 ?to 3 i've to add that i did NOT had the issue w. Kaspersky before in those game-protection scheme regards. But who knows - since if an executable/registrypart got changed, that it either complains/asks about it what to do about it, or blocks it. But since a lot of games reserving the D3D-render-surface of the desktop for itself, i had occasionally the issues that after patching a game, that Kaspersky BLOCKS the processes, UNTIL the question "executable X has been changed - ALLOW/TERMINATE?", which freezes/crashes the game, but i never get the chance to "allow" the changed game's executable, since the game dosent allow Kaspersky's question-popup to be displayed. And since we all here know that game-patches contain silent protection-scheme updates (as it happenes for example w. EAW v1.04) maybe something got screwed-up there? any takers on this tough nut? ![]() thx-a-thon in advanced @
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if the program is crashing before the cd icon appears then your system is probably corrupt or some registry hooker etc is causing the exit.. again, in such a case, being a legit owner the securom support (never used it myself tho) might be able to help, after all you did buy the game so why not use the support? Quote:
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really i think thats your best option m8
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TippeX
thx for the quick reply, yes i do own the games for real, but i'm a so called "INFOSEC Consultant", and there's some stuff on my box that my clients consider PRIVATE, that i've for backup purposes (after all my box has almost 4 TB's in total HDD space) and before i send the report off to SECUROM, i'd like to knows whats inside it.w. #2 i asked, if a "separate SecuROM v7 installation package" exist, one that does NOT require to install a/the game that came with it, one that "brutally overwrites/sets straight" what could be messed-up in the registry/services/devices. something like the official STARFORCE-remover and/or something that does it the other way by "enforcing a clean re-installation" of the dreaded protection-scheme. Q: is it legit when i OWN a game (w. disc and evreything) to use a 3rd-party patch to circumvent the protectionscheme (since it fucks up so much apparently, according to the internet). cheers @
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hmm really depends on the eula... (using 3rd party soft etc)
the dialog from the launch config states that its like msinfo32, so well i guess that holds your answer...
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