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Old 02-07-2006, 08:26
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Standart drives does not need to read it, and therefore, CANT, so SF cant do anything in such drives about such check.
Why does SF tell the opposite ? LINK

When i burn to DVD+R (Booktype ROM) and try to run in ROM drive the "illegal copy" message comes as fast as without set booktype
...yes, i know, you first need SF4 title to test
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:13
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Why does SF tell the opposite ? LINK

When i burn to DVD+R (Booktype ROM) and try to run in ROM drive the "illegal copy" message comes as fast as without set booktype
...yes, i know, you first need SF4 title to test
ATIP: Absolute Time In Pregroove, most times shorted to Pregroove.

Recorders uses this Pre-mastered track to write data. All CD-R/DVD-R media contains it as it is the way a recorder "knows" where it is in every moment when recording. This is the so called "Pre-pits area". Read laser beam is going ahead from writing, and thats the main speed issue with -R format. Read and write beam goes so close, and read one inserts errors cause wave lenght interferes with the also red writing beam. Even having a black case, errors are so important. Thats why PLEXTOR QUALITY drives have the inner core black. Black adsorb all wave lenght making writing beam to get less-influenced by read one. As READERS does not NEED to WRITE ANY DISC, WHY THEY SHOULD READ SUCH DATA?. Simply, they dont, and firmware is more efficient, and simple.

ANYONE saying standart drives reads ATIP is LYING.

ADIP: ADress In Pregroove. Drive does not need a premastered track to write to. Drive itself chooses block data size and speed depending on error and disc quality. This is the native +R format. Only RECORDERS KNOWS how the disc is and how the disc should be WRITEN.

Both ATIP and ADIP info are in PREGAP, DIFFERENT from media to media. SF can include a PreGAP check, as SD does, but CANT DETECT ATIP & ADIP by brute force if drive DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.

Not all drives supports reading PreGap, and not all software supports it. (See Padus discjuggler info about Pregap disc and drive suppporting)

In this case, SF MUST correct its info, as the info it gives is technically INCORRECT AND FALSE. We have a saying in Spain that sounds like: "Ignorance is so daring"

Clearer now?

CdS

Unfortunatelly in Spain some games got released a little far away from rest of the the world release date. Just to say Spellforce - The Phoenix shadow got released at the same time Spellforce 2 was released. I'll wait a lot till a SF 4.0 game arrives here.
In the other way i can download by a P2P net, but, this is considered warez and illegal so i usually dont do it. I enjoy having original discs in hand.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:15
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Have found another solution for the moment, full image runs under Windows Vista Beta 2
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how is vista ? stable , fast , nice ?
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Uhhhhhhhhh I don't feel like downloading vista... Any other solutions ?
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