Rise And Fall: CaW - Starforce 3.7

[Maffi]

tried the good image on a friends pc without Nforce™ chipset
and it workz out great !!!

sad for me with a Nforce system

Hope a fix will be released soon ?!? any ideas when ?


Greetz

[Morglum007]

Because of this method is media and hardware dependant ( as the old Safedisc and two sheep supported drives method) i think there is no fix yet for this problem. The only way is to force Nforce chipset company to release a new BIOS to block SF "intrussion". Until this, nForce systems will be "compromised" under SF.

As far as i know, someone said newer SF 4.0 included the so called ADIP check, to avoid this kind of copy. No problem at all, with a media hider, as in ATIP, or just executing under SCSI/RAID/USB, that overrides this kind of check.

We found at CdSTeam not only 3.7 SF versions are copied with this method. Also Panzers - Phase two is perfectly burnt under a Daxon media disc.

We will keep trying. In the other hand, see ur tries as a verification of our suspects. It is better to know "the truth" to walk in the darkness ^^

CdS

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by Morglum007

As far as i know, someone said newer SF 4.0 included the so called ADIP check, to avoid this kind of copy. No problem at all, with a media hider, as in ATIP, or just executing under SCSI/RAID/USB, that overrides this kind of check.

Neither media hider (->Emulation detected !) nor my RAID-Controller can cheat the check

[Morglum007]

Does ur drive support bit setting? U must change the book type when writing disc. Pioneer drives does not support that, but plextor and NEC, for example support it.

Anyway, what RAID controller do u have? SiS? ITE8212?

Brand tools usually works. Plextools for PLex drives for example do the job in Plextor, cause they used crypted access to drive, and SF cannot interfere with.

For other people, a tool must be coded.

[Zulu]

Controller: SiI 0649 RAID Controller
Burner: LG GSA 4163B
Media: PHILIPS 041, DAXON D42 (Flatout2 has same check as Rise & Fall & Co)

Burnt with Blindwrite 6 -> Emulation detected (Image)
Burnt with DVD Decrypter -> Illegal copy

A friend of mine tested with SiI 0680RAID: same results

[Morglum007]

When i could get a 4.0 SF protected title here in Spain, or when some companions give me little info about, i will reply in conditions, sorry.

By now, i havent a clear reply. An ADIP hider tool must be coded.

TIP: Bet on soldier - Blood in Sahara is fully burnable with Infodisc media (Memorex DVD+RW)

CdS

[ronson49]

This is fuckin rude,

I installed this a while back, and recently i have been having massive problems with my system for no real reason. If i fired up a game, the screen would shift in res and freeze. No task manager, no options. As bad a blue screen of death.

After checking pretty much every running process it came to the attention my winlogon icon had changed to that very much the same as "install/remove protection drivers" found in the midway group section under my start menu.

After removing them all my problems ceased to exsist.

I have to admit, im a big fan of the No-CD due to the fact i never look after my games. I was offended that SF was installed in the first place, basically calling me a thief for buying the product, but i didnt know it could go as far as creating a plathora of issues where the last place you expect to find them is on a GAME you PURCHASED.

I did what any person with any kind of pride should do, i took the enjoyment from the purchase by covering the item in magnesium ribbon and watching through sunglasses as it bubbled.

I will purchase a game from Midway again one day, however im going to hold off a bit until im dead

This games pish anyways lads.

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by Morglum007

Plextools for PLex drives for example do the job in Plextor, cause they used crypted access to drive, and SF cannot interfere with.

Booktype is set while burning, how could SF affect that ?

Do you think it's possible to edit standard Firmwares of DVD-ROM drives to report DVD-ROM for DVD+R bypassing ADIP ?

[Morglum007]

Originally Posted by Zulu

Booktype is set while burning, how could SF affect that ?

Do you think it's possible to edit standard Firmwares of DVD-ROM drives to report DVD-ROM for DVD+R bypassing ADIP ?

When u burn u can make the resulting DVD be considered as a DVD-ROM if u set such booktype. If DVD-ROM, ADIP & ATIP check will be OVERRIDED by unit itself automatically.

Remember only RECORDERS READS ATIP & ADIP. Standart drives does not need to read it, and therefore, CANT, so SF cant do anything in such drives about such check.

So at the end, i think ur question is replied, no need to modify firm in standart drives.

[neptun]

So if i burn the DVD with DVD-ROM booktype setting i can play the game from recorders and not only from readers?

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by Morglum007

Standart drives does not need to read it, and therefore, CANT, so SF cant do anything in such drives about such check.

Why does SF tell the opposite ? LINK

When i burn to DVD+R (Booktype ROM) and try to run in ROM drive the "illegal copy" message comes as fast as without set booktype
...yes, i know, you first need SF4 title to test