Rise And Fall: CaW - Starforce 3.7

[neptun]

Maybe.I have nforce4 motherboard ( ASUs A8N-SLI Deluxe ) and in the past the strange controller helped me very much because i didn't need to unplug the drives physically when using image mounted in virtual drive but just disable the ide controller in device manager worked ( my harddisks are sata ).Toca race driver 3 worked for me with this method but Rise and Fall CaW doesn't work.I hope that new daemon tools pro which maybe will be released soon will fix the things by using virtual ide drive.

EDIT: Have you tried both with the nvidia ide drivers and with the standart MS drivers?In the past it did matter if you use the nvidia drivers or the standard ms drivers.

[Morglum007]

Originally Posted by neptun

Maybe.I have nforce4 motherboard ( ASUs A8N-SLI Deluxe ) and in the past the strange controller helped me very much because i didn't need to unplug the drives physically when using image mounted in virtual drive but just disable the ide controller in device manager worked ( my harddisks are sata ).Toca race driver 3 worked for me with this method but Rise and Fall CaW doesn't work.I hope that new daemon tools pro which maybe will be released soon will fix the things by using virtual ide drive.

EDIT: Have you tried both with the nvidia ide drivers and with the standart MS drivers?In the past it did matter if you use the nvidia drivers or the standard ms drivers.

We did, and no way. Still refuses to launch.

For the next question, we discovered long ago, that SF access in SMM mode for a while before launching ( SMM: Super Memory Mode aka BIOS level for most people (even a "higher" level that ring0)[suposelly to be imposible under windows running, but SF does using special micro flags]) and here SF detects HDs, drives, and so on. We also know SF "blacklisted" some RAID controllers long ago, by modifying some windows entries to take data from those "virtual raid". Thats maybe the reason SF detects both ATAPI/ATIP check (when available, not applyable to +R format in theory) under such controllers.
We was known some RAID SiS controllers were "sniffed" but we didnt suppose it did the same with nforce ones, but who knows.... Nforce chipset specs are not public, so, maybe SF found something we didnt yet to get full access as an IDE under RAID (overriding RAID advantages).

Up to day, we are still in the "testing ands supposing phase".
We cant be more accurate with this nforce related issue yet, as stated before.

CdSTeam

[neptun]

Thank you very much for this comprehensive explanation.I am happy that people like you exsist and help averge users like me who don't know as much as you to have a chance to make backup of discs protected with this new strong protections.I hope that you or the daemon tools creators will finally find a way to defeat starforce in general.If i can help with anything feel free to PM me.

[i_am_ugf]

I managed to play the game with burning on DVD+rw Benq Brand...The only problem is that it refuses to play on my NEC3500A but plays on my NEC 3520AW...

[AnotherNoob]

Do you think the game will be cracked ?

Is someone worling on the crack ?

Im just wondering, wont it be more easy to randomise the install og deamon tools ?

That way, starforce dont know how or where to look for deamon tools.

[noscript]

1. maybe
2. maybe
3. Daemon tools has to know where daemon tools is, too