Rise And Fall: CaW - Starforce 3.7

[neptun]

I have problems with this game.The way i used for POP T2T and Toca 3 ( nforce 4 MB + sata harddrives + disable pata controller , mount and play ) is not working anymore.The starforce version is 3.7.16.4. I noticed that the message displayed by starforce is always "Failed to identify the disc".This message is displayed even if the controller is not disabled.The previous starforce versions gave message "Insert disc in other drive" right after double clicking on the game .exe file in this case and the mounted image was not even checked.Now with this version it looks like the mounted image is always checked ( no matter if there is real drives connected to the system or not ).I am not sure what exactly is the reason for that but i have some ideas:

1. Wrong DPM info ( bad .mds fle ).Possible but not very likely.I used the same hardware ( NEC 3540 ) and software ( Latest alcohol ) and settings ( dpm high and low extraction speed ) that worked fine for POP T2T and TOCA 3.

2. Some new kind of blacklisting that prevents alcohol and daemon tools 4.0.3 ( i tried with both of them ) to emulate correctly the disc topology.


I can't test with unplugging of the optical drives now so if somebody can make this test please tell us if it is working.If anyone managed to make working backup of this game please tell me how you managed to do that.

[neptun]

Update: It looks like with this version of starforce it is not possible to use virtual drive and image.Currently neither daemon tools nor alcohol can cheat this newest version of starforce.

[BarryB]

Just use the original DVD for now, this version of SF blacklists DT4 and mini images.

[ghiurutan]

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[neptun]

I know about this way but i don't have discs with some of this mediacodes right now.Thank you for trying to help me.I wonder which is the reason discs with this mediacodes to work and if this hole i nthe protection will be filled soon.

[bob_geldof]

wish a no cd would be made for this shaprish, Iam to dumb to do my own and constent cd change is *yawn

[cptpooface]

I tried to read the info from the links but with the picture I couldn't figure out how to read it because it is too bright and I can't see any of it on my monitor, and the other ones in spanish. I have, however read a guide about another game that has the same protection. From what I understand if you have one of the discs mentioned, you can use the original dvd to make a image, then copy the image using alcohol 120% and disable the rmps copy. If you do this will the burned dvd act as an original dvd, (will it work without any crack)? Also do you need any anti-blacklisting tools or do anything else like unplugging the ide drives, or is the burned copy of the original all you need? I am sorry if this has been answered or is a hassle, like I said I couldn't read any of the links and I searched the forums. I would just like to have this info, because I don't think its worth unplugging the ide drives, its just too much of a hassle and I will just use the original until there is a crack (if there ever is a crack). Just out of curiosity, is this starforce protection the one everybody hates and was boycotting, and if it is, has anyone successfully cracked the protection?

[neptun]

If you make the image with alcohol and burn it without rmps to one of the discs mentioned it will work just like your original.No need to unplug drives or use antiblacklisting tools.Just put the disc in your drive and play.

[Maffi]

Hello ,

tried it out and i must say it doesnt work here so far
Buyed a whole bunch of different DVD´s untill i found the
RICOHJPNW11 ! but it still doenst work even with the correct Alcohol version.

so please keep me updated what to do


Greetz

[Morglum007]

u should try with the daxon and philips media code. Also the infodisc media code may work. Seems some recorders doesnt enjoy certains brands. Remember that even using same media code, a brand disc may work, and another brand with same media code wont. There is also some people with nec using mbip media code instead philips, daxon or infodisc. U should look for what type of disc ur drive better accepts. This is an error/success process. List is just orientative. If u have a nforce based chipset it wont work while u execute under such controller. Another thing: game?

CdS

[Maffi]

will try the Phillips now got almost every Brand and type available here for testing
last test will be the Octron "RITEKR02"
im using a Nforce chipset with SataRaid ? u think its possible that this combo
cause some problems too ? ideas to fix it ?

Greetz

[CrackFinder]

I just compared "rise and fall" from file-to-file with its demo and I found that the problem file is TCPProtocol.dll, it is the file that call protect.dll to work but when I replace this file with TCPProtocolDemo.dll and rename it to TCPProtocol.dll I cannot work like I guessed before. It is another way to crack rise and fall by un-touch SF3.7.16.04 if some one can modify TCPProtocol.dll. Warggggggggggggg....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry for my noob English too.

[Maffi]

thx morglum for answer
tried 4 more of the mediatypes and it seems like your right with my NForce problem , hope someone gets the problem with the starforce done for us with a fix !

ill be stay tuned !

Greetz

[Morglum007]

I forgot some important thing for those nForce based mobos.

The next games DO NOT LAUNCH UNDER nForce SYSTEMS:

- Toca race driver 3
- War on terror
- LA rush
- GTI - Racing

Rise and fall, blazing angels and the other DVD SF protected titles DOES WORK in nForce based systems.

So, for this people experiencing problems with its nforce system, i highly encourage to try another "easy" game, like rise and fall. (Tests under a nforce4 based chipset).

CdSTeam

[Zulu]

btw. "Right media method" doesn't work anymore with Flatout 2 (SF 4.0.09.01); error message ("illegal copy") appears immediately. Looks like the announced ADIP check.