Starforce Petition!

[Dieselbrad]

Originally Posted by wildwing

ggr
i dont get
why to boycot games with sf?
i have 3 games what i bought and they was with sf3
that is scct/corsars 3(russian) and cmr05..
this games works fine,no sf errors or smth
...
looks like u want to boycot games with sf3 cuz U leech this CLONEs from ftp/torrrents ect..and u cant get this game to works ( i mean u cant run or smth so u cant play...)
sorry for my bad english

The Name of the site is Game COPY World! Not Pirate World! I bought my games as I'm sure most in the thread have. Don't Assume we are pirates because we have the right to make a backup up of something we spend 50 dollars on! I can copy my music to my Ipod from my CD-ROM Disc, Why should I not be able to backup my Game-Disc incase of incident!

When I install a game, I want only the GAME on my machine. When I listen to a sony Music CD, I want only the MUSIC on my machine.
This Copy Protection thing in general is absurd:

Developers Spend Money on Protections that will be cracked or are intrusive on the consumer then pass the savings on to you in the form of a 50-60 dollar price tag.

PIRATES DO NOT PAY FOR SOFTWARE! STARFORCE & THE REST ARE ALIENATING THE PEOPLE TO WHO DO BUY THE SOFTWARE.

IS THIS THE WAY TO DO GOOD BUSINESS?

Microsoft just announced that they will recognize Sony's DRM RootKit as Malware in the latest version of Microsoft AntiSpyware. These are the steps needed to show that the cost of DRM is more than the Gain. You have to speak DOLLAR SIGNS or they don't understand!

BOYCOTT STARFORCE MEANS THE COST > THE GAIN

Sorry Developers some of your products are damn good.
Some of your CEO's are NOT!

I'm pissed off now.. Going to play Some Battlefiled 2 From my ORIGINAL DISC!

[DABhand]

Again unless stated in the TOS or EULA, you can make a backup (1 of) if stated. If not you can not make a backup.

Doesnt matter the country your in either. The contents are copyrighted and is owned by the developer/publisher.


Also, I think the other guy was saying that about most people who download the games not everyone here. Its true though most of the SF moaners are people who used to download their images and play away now its getting difficult for them and now they cant.

What a shame, Not!

[Grumpy]

There have been some very valid comment mentioned here recently. Has definately been a very interesting read indeed.

@Dieselbrad

Going to play Some Battlefiled 2 From my ORIGINAL DISC!

You can use a mini image for BF2, and it still works online. My BF2 mini image stays permanently mounted! And the BF2 mini image also works for Special Forces. I use my own mini image but I believe the 'bleh' one on GCW works fine for others.

[Dieselbrad]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

There have been some very valid comment mentioned here recently. Has definately been a very interesting read indeed.

@Dieselbrad

You can use a mini image for BF2, and it still works online. My BF2 mini image stays permanently mounted! And the BF2 mini image also works for Special Forces. I use my own mini image but I believe the 'bleh' one on GCW works fine for others.

Thanks, I also use a mini image I made. I was just pointing out that I actually owned the game. I did not know that you could use the BF2 disc for Spec forces until recently though. Neat!

[DaRipper]

Originally Posted by Dieselbrad

Don't Assume we are pirates because we have the right to make a backup up of something we spend 50 dollars on! I can copy my music to my Ipod from my CD-ROM Disc, Why should I not be able to backup my Game-Disc incase of incident!

Good point! I'd rather keep the originals in their cases and use copies. When the copy dies, I break the disc into pieces and make another one... At least the originals will still be here, and the cost would be very much lower!!

This Copy Protection thing in general is absurd:

Developers Spend Money on Protections that will be cracked or are intrusive on the consumer then pass the savings on to you in the form of a 50-60 dollar price tag.

PIRATES DO NOT PAY FOR SOFTWARE! STARFORCE & THE REST ARE ALIENATING THE PEOPLE TO WHO DO BUY THE SOFTWARE.

IS THIS THE WAY TO DO GOOD BUSINESS?

Annoying Copy Protection + High Price Tag = less consumers.

They should review their equations!! Maybe the developers are trying to frighten pirates, but they are frightening potential buyers for sure! How many gamers who were faithful to some publisher are now willing to actually STOP buying games from them if they continue using StarForce as copy protection? And when faithful followers stop supporting their favorite publishers, how will they sell to new customers? A great deal of new gamers get info from elders, so if elders tell you a game's not worth the pain, you are less inclined to buy it!


PS:I managed to finish POP3 in 2 days and to clear the side effects of SF, I had to reformat my baby. Lucky I had 2 HDD, so I didn't lose data. So much time lost because of one game, I'm definitely staying away from SF from now on.

[Pandaman]

To those who accuse people against StarForce as being whining pirates:

1) StarForce can be easily circumvented - just look it up on Google, it's like three easy steps.

2) StarForce has been known to damage CD/DVD drives on certain versions of WinXP and/or firmwares.

3) StarForce leaves a gaping security hole in your system by granting system level privileges to everything running on your computer.

4) Games with StarForce do not tell you that it is being installed, nor does it remove it the game is uninstalled.

So companies that use StarForce are endangering your CD/DVD drive and security for a worthless anti-piracy program that can only be removed by a tool offered by its creators - meaning if you didn't know you had StarForce installed, you wouldn't know to remove it.

If you still think StarForce is a good idea, you're either a troll or a blithering idiot.

[Oblivion]

STupid StarForce! Wait till the makes get a taste of this eh!

[Drifternz]

I to am joining the boycot of Starforce protected games.
After installing Worms Mayhem, I had endless trouble with writing cds. It wasn't even as if I was trying to write cd images or copy cds. I was having trouble writing data cds!
After removing the starforce drivers, my writer once again could write cds with no trouble, so there is no doubt that the starforce drivers were the problem.
Also I had trouble installing some other heavly protected games like Sacred.
(which by the way is a bought original).
Again once the starforce drivers was removed, I could install the other games with no trouble.
When I fork out NZ$100 for a game, I expect it not to wreck havioc on my system or interfere with or damage my hardware.
Is my expectations to high?

[Oblivion]

Originally Posted by Drifternz

When I fork out NZ$100 for a game, I expect it not to wreck havioc on my system or interfere with or damage my hardware.
Is my expectations to high?

NO!!!!! Youre expectations arre by no means too high. People buy games to play them, not have the protection of the $90AU game infecting and even stuffing up their system! LAWSUIT!LAWSUIT!LAWSUIT!LAWSUIT!LAWSUIT!
WHen it comes to cracking SF, Star Force Clean Removes the drivers, but the moment you start up the game again, it reinstalls them again! Imbloodypossible! Hehehe.

[Linux-Gamer]

SF games dont works on my Cedega , too

The fu**** PC reboot Grrrrrr

Starforce to Hell


MfG

[Iku]