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Old 11-12-2005, 02:45
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I would be glad to send some donkey-style programmers and some other blind-gamers to play soccer instead; They would cause less damage to the essence of videogamez.
And, if I don't ask too much, could you please reply point after point to my preceiding post? I guess you can't cause sane criticism doesn't run well on your brain, damn unfornutately you can't get a new one.
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:58
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Sorry for the double post.
Grumpy, didn't want to be offensive, but the fact is that I hate to waste the hard-earned money of my parents (I'm a student), so don't take it like a personal attack cause all I would like to make you understand is that this is the 1.000th time that a game isn't worth his price.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:03
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@Duke
All I originally said to you was:
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Hang on, the game may run like crap, on your system, but I personally thought the game was well done and a lot better than the NFS Underground games!
Without going into details about my system specs I managed to play the game with all settings on maximum and the game ran perfectly.
I think you are giving the game a bad review only because it doesnt run perfect on your machine?
Like any game I believe it all depends on the system you are trying to run it on.
Again, I only tried to suggest you should maybe not criticize a game just because it wont run on your machine! I did not originally start to have a go at you until you made the remark "And maybe you need to open your eyes."
My kids have a P4 2.8 HT 1gig Ram and a 128 Graphics card yet even they can run it on Medium settings at 1024x768!! So, you little dipstick again I say to you it is your goddam machine that is letting you down!!!
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if you still feel I talk on the wings of envy
I never said anything about you being envious?? But obviously you are envious of something? Again my kids system runs the game better than your ****ty machine!! And my kids is a less spec machine than yours! Doesnt that tell you something?
As far as touching on your points, when you make a valid point I may consider touching on it! Besides why bother when your dimwit brain can only answer with "but this seems just a good excuse"!!
Every game will tell you "You must install the latest drivers"!!
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It has dream cars
What do/did you seriously expect??
If you want a real car get a Driving License and get out on the road!! Pull yourself away from that crappy system of yours and buy a real car!! Of course they are Dream cars??
Sane criticism you say?? Where was the sane criticism? You dont even understand that playing games is playing in a dream world! Its not real!! Its not meant to be real!! Please tell me a PC game that was real?? Sane criticism, wow I am still laughing and shaking my head at that comment!!
Telling me to 'open my eyes' and trying to refer to me as another 'Blind Gamer' only proceeds to 'Piss me off' and believe me that in itself is not a smart thing to do!!
Now pull your head out of the clouds and go and buy a 'real' car!!

EDIT: What do you mean you didnt want to be offensive!? What telling me I cant take sane criticism wasnt meant to be offensive!!! Dream on mummys boy!! If you dont want to waste mummies money then go rent the game, you know try before you buy!!
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:34
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Old 11-12-2005, 07:52
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In fact I rented it, as I told ya before, but what I wanted to underline is that even a Pc game should be compatible with 99% pc which are over the min requirements. What's the meaning of NFSMW req? Nothing, cause even on a much better pc it is choppy.
Before you talked about "realism", now you say "It's a game, it's not real", I guess you should take a clear decision before talking, otherwise I'll think you turn the things in the way that is suitable to support your opinion.
And yes, you are another blind-gamer, who considers every game he buys a must-buy, while all the consideartions I made demonstrate that this game isn't really perfect. You can disagree if you want, but it will not help in convincing me that NFS is a good game.
I'd like to remember you that I said that "every other game runs fine", but NFS doesn't, so what? There's something that is not with my systems, but with game coding which is full of lacks.
Maybe you're right, I should go out and play football, or would you be so kind to send me your kids so they can teach me how to use a pc???
I'll stop it right here, I still have not heard a possible solution for my prob. and I'm not interested in arguing with a bunch of noisy guys. And yes, I'm still referring to you.
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:22
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Before you talked about "realism", now you say "It's a game, it's not real", I guess you should take a clear decision before talking, otherwise I'll think you turn the things in the way that is suitable to support your opinion.
Yes I did mention realism! Open those eyes of yours! I said:
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All car games (all games in fact) are unrealistic!
Dont try and change my words! It was you who expected to see realism!
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it will not help in convincing me that NFS is a good game.
I am not trying to convince you that NFS is a good game! Just because I think it is a good game doesnt mean everyone has to agree, I was merely trying to inform you that just because it doesnt work on 'your' machine doesnt mean the game has been badly coded!
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I'm not interested in arguing with a bunch of noisy guys. And yes, I'm still referring to you
lol, ahh kids! I think you may find that you are the one who is making all the noise! Trying to change my words, telling me to open my eyes! Go back over our posts and you will find that I innocently tried to inform you about you system. You fired the first shot by telling me to open my eyes, when mine have been clearly open from the start! You have made the blind accusations and once you leave the comfort of mummys and daddys lap you may even grow up yourself! I dont take to kindly to 'kids' telling me to open my eyes when theirs havent begun to open!!
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Old 13-12-2005, 14:40
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@ Mujifighter

That's the SAME problem I've encountered, and now I've the same with NFSU2. Even when I have reinstalled the OS (2 times) I've kept the D:\ partition (which is about 50 GB, 40 of them full & defragmented). Maybe I'll try to free some disk space and just defragment again with that proggy. Thx for the advice.


However my config is:
P4 3.06 Ghz HT FSB533 (I've tried the imagecfg trick, but nothing)
1024 Mb DDR 333
80 Gb Hard Disk @ 4800 RPM
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 128 Mb (NOT shared)

When I bought it, just 2 years and a half ago, it was really a gaming machine.
Maybe it would be still good if there where some good and up-to-date gfx drivers. I've already tried official ATI catalyst, DNA and Omega Drivers, Unyan Catalyst and DHModtool, but with latest drivers I'm unable to reproduce videos.

Anyway, I'm sure that the problem isn't caused by:
USB joypad
Firewall
Antivirus
Updating features running in background
Internet Connection
Paging File Fragmentation
Dual CPU issues (it could happen while programmin' with feet )
GFX card (it works perfectly with other heavy games such as COD2)

Hope this will help in finding a solution.
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Old 13-12-2005, 15:04
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But you wont get help after admiting you rented the game and you dont actually own it.

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In fact I rented it, as I told ya before, but what I wanted to underline is that even a Pc game should be compatible with 99% pc which are over the min requirements. What's the meaning of NFSMW req? Nothing, cause even on a much better pc it is choppy.

EDIT: All PC's are different, motherboards are different, graphic cards from whatever manufacturer (even same 6800 chipset) are different, all processors arent twins or identical, soundcards, memory, drives, etc etc All are different.

So you cant have a game running 99% perfect on all machines, its impossible to test on all multiples of hardware.

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Old 11-12-2005, 08:25
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See now you shot yourself in the foot (DUKE)


Like ive said before, not all games work on every single machine, its impossible, there is that many combinations of different hardware in a machine that it would be difficult to test one game on all.


Laptops are usually not gaming machines, unless you bought a gaming machine.


Whats your laptop specs, and graphic card? If its one of those onboard intel extremes you can forget playing the game.


EDIT: Grumpy got his post out before mine :P
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:37
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i run the game on a P4 3Ghz with a 9800XT 128MB and 1024 Mb RAM which is not really Hi-End nowadays ...
It runs lets say okay, a not-that-smooth 20 fps at max settings and 1024x768 is okay, but sometimes there is something really strange i encountered. it runs for a certain time with 5fps or less, just stops after lets say 2 min.
but the most strange thing, it happens in special areas, often with plenty of wood
and, wow, i just defragmentated my systen with Perfect Disk and it does not appear anymore. cool .
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Old 11-12-2005, 13:57
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I run it on a 2.5 Barton for christ sakes

1gig ram
120 gig sata
Radeon 9600XT
Stock coolong lol (no Overclock)

Highest detail
No chop

OK res 800X600
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Guys, if you want serious simulation, try Live for Speed or any game from the SimBin Team, in the hardest difficulty mode. The Need for Speed series stopped being simulation, after the first one.

As for compatibility, a PC not only need to meet the hardware requirements but its software also needs to be maintained continuously, otherwise weird things will happen - crashes, compatibility problems, etc. -, and not only with games! So, from this point of view, DABhand is right, it is not always the publisher's fault that their software doesn't run - properly or at all - on a given PC. (The real question is the difference between the percentage of problems caused by the user and the publisher. )
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