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Old 11-12-2005, 00:36
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Grumpy, I can see you avoided to touch some of the points (IE driving model and performance balance betwenn much different cars) I underlined, but it doesn't really matter.
As you have said, for 1 person who complains there are 1000 who have fun, but this seems just a good excuse.
Once upon a time, there weren't all these problems with games; I can remember the days spent with Quake II, when I was just a child and had no knowledge of the pc; I never had problems. (and there was windows 98 besides!!!!)
Yes, today there are son many hardware configs that it's not possible to test the game with every1, but it's not a good thing to think only o users who have the latest gfx card, the latest procio, 3kgs ram and the latest drivers for every damned piece of hardware they have.
The two undergrounds had the same probs of most wanted about playability, but, as I said, thy were honest, cause they tried to reproduce one specific kind of situation (----> illegal races) and they almost completely succeeded.
But then, what NFSMW pretends to be???
It has dream cars, which run just like a 15000 euros Fiat Punto; it has customization, but so restricted that Rock'n'Roll Racing is more permissive; it has circuits which seem always the same, and the weather conditions don't affect driving. Oh, and police IA remained the same of Hot Pursiut 2, if not worse.
One consideration about "realism", pleeze, don't make me laugh.
If you run like Michel Vaillant with a monstrous car, youl'll still see rivals biting the asphalt after you. If you run like a drunken monkey with a standard car, you'l be still able to beat a dark gray Supra with yellow & red flames and every type of tuning allowed by this (poor) game. This is the essence of modern games: no trial & error, just go ahead to the end, with rivals waiting for you to beat them 2 metres before the finish line. Easy gaming for no-brain gamers: that's what it is, nothin' more, nothin' less.
Grumpy, if you still feel I talk on the wings of envy cause I've not an high-end pc, that's just your prob. I solved mine bringing back the pc ver. to the store and renting the xbox one. It's still crap anyway, just 3-4 days of multiplayer and then back to the store, again and forever.
You know, I'm not old (20) but I started playing "seriously" when I was 7, I've never considered gfx a matter of interest and I prefer running a game at 640x480 fluently then at 1024x768 with some slowdowns. But when you can't have fun cause programmers & beta testers are just incompetent, and publishers pretend to condemn piracy while they get 50 euros a game and they don't get ensured about the quality of the game, then I sit down, stop playing and just look at the sunset.
Last point. NO. I repeat: NO, my laptop hasn't any sort of problem, except for bad coded NFSMW. After formatting 2 TIMES (I made the mistake of installing that CRAPPY game 2 times), it returned to its golden age, which started in july (last OS reinstalling before these days) and would have continued but it couldn't, thx again to NFSMW. End of the story.
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:18
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Hahahahaha! You poor misguided soul! Found your football yet?
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:45
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I would be glad to send some donkey-style programmers and some other blind-gamers to play soccer instead; They would cause less damage to the essence of videogamez.
And, if I don't ask too much, could you please reply point after point to my preceiding post? I guess you can't cause sane criticism doesn't run well on your brain, damn unfornutately you can't get a new one.
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:58
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Sorry for the double post.
Grumpy, didn't want to be offensive, but the fact is that I hate to waste the hard-earned money of my parents (I'm a student), so don't take it like a personal attack cause all I would like to make you understand is that this is the 1.000th time that a game isn't worth his price.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:03
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Hang on, the game may run like crap, on your system, but I personally thought the game was well done and a lot better than the NFS Underground games!
Without going into details about my system specs I managed to play the game with all settings on maximum and the game ran perfectly.
I think you are giving the game a bad review only because it doesnt run perfect on your machine?
Like any game I believe it all depends on the system you are trying to run it on.
Again, I only tried to suggest you should maybe not criticize a game just because it wont run on your machine! I did not originally start to have a go at you until you made the remark "And maybe you need to open your eyes."
My kids have a P4 2.8 HT 1gig Ram and a 128 Graphics card yet even they can run it on Medium settings at 1024x768!! So, you little dipstick again I say to you it is your goddam machine that is letting you down!!!
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if you still feel I talk on the wings of envy
I never said anything about you being envious?? But obviously you are envious of something? Again my kids system runs the game better than your ****ty machine!! And my kids is a less spec machine than yours! Doesnt that tell you something?
As far as touching on your points, when you make a valid point I may consider touching on it! Besides why bother when your dimwit brain can only answer with "but this seems just a good excuse"!!
Every game will tell you "You must install the latest drivers"!!
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It has dream cars
What do/did you seriously expect??
If you want a real car get a Driving License and get out on the road!! Pull yourself away from that crappy system of yours and buy a real car!! Of course they are Dream cars??
Sane criticism you say?? Where was the sane criticism? You dont even understand that playing games is playing in a dream world! Its not real!! Its not meant to be real!! Please tell me a PC game that was real?? Sane criticism, wow I am still laughing and shaking my head at that comment!!
Telling me to 'open my eyes' and trying to refer to me as another 'Blind Gamer' only proceeds to 'Piss me off' and believe me that in itself is not a smart thing to do!!
Now pull your head out of the clouds and go and buy a 'real' car!!

EDIT: What do you mean you didnt want to be offensive!? What telling me I cant take sane criticism wasnt meant to be offensive!!! Dream on mummys boy!! If you dont want to waste mummies money then go rent the game, you know try before you buy!!
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:34
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Old 11-12-2005, 07:52
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In fact I rented it, as I told ya before, but what I wanted to underline is that even a Pc game should be compatible with 99% pc which are over the min requirements. What's the meaning of NFSMW req? Nothing, cause even on a much better pc it is choppy.
Before you talked about "realism", now you say "It's a game, it's not real", I guess you should take a clear decision before talking, otherwise I'll think you turn the things in the way that is suitable to support your opinion.
And yes, you are another blind-gamer, who considers every game he buys a must-buy, while all the consideartions I made demonstrate that this game isn't really perfect. You can disagree if you want, but it will not help in convincing me that NFS is a good game.
I'd like to remember you that I said that "every other game runs fine", but NFS doesn't, so what? There's something that is not with my systems, but with game coding which is full of lacks.
Maybe you're right, I should go out and play football, or would you be so kind to send me your kids so they can teach me how to use a pc???
I'll stop it right here, I still have not heard a possible solution for my prob. and I'm not interested in arguing with a bunch of noisy guys. And yes, I'm still referring to you.
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:22
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Before you talked about "realism", now you say "It's a game, it's not real", I guess you should take a clear decision before talking, otherwise I'll think you turn the things in the way that is suitable to support your opinion.
Yes I did mention realism! Open those eyes of yours! I said:
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All car games (all games in fact) are unrealistic!
Dont try and change my words! It was you who expected to see realism!
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it will not help in convincing me that NFS is a good game.
I am not trying to convince you that NFS is a good game! Just because I think it is a good game doesnt mean everyone has to agree, I was merely trying to inform you that just because it doesnt work on 'your' machine doesnt mean the game has been badly coded!
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I'm not interested in arguing with a bunch of noisy guys. And yes, I'm still referring to you
lol, ahh kids! I think you may find that you are the one who is making all the noise! Trying to change my words, telling me to open my eyes! Go back over our posts and you will find that I innocently tried to inform you about you system. You fired the first shot by telling me to open my eyes, when mine have been clearly open from the start! You have made the blind accusations and once you leave the comfort of mummys and daddys lap you may even grow up yourself! I dont take to kindly to 'kids' telling me to open my eyes when theirs havent begun to open!!
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See now you shot yourself in the foot (DUKE)


Like ive said before, not all games work on every single machine, its impossible, there is that many combinations of different hardware in a machine that it would be difficult to test one game on all.


Laptops are usually not gaming machines, unless you bought a gaming machine.


Whats your laptop specs, and graphic card? If its one of those onboard intel extremes you can forget playing the game.


EDIT: Grumpy got his post out before mine :P
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i run the game on a P4 3Ghz with a 9800XT 128MB and 1024 Mb RAM which is not really Hi-End nowadays ...
It runs lets say okay, a not-that-smooth 20 fps at max settings and 1024x768 is okay, but sometimes there is something really strange i encountered. it runs for a certain time with 5fps or less, just stops after lets say 2 min.
but the most strange thing, it happens in special areas, often with plenty of wood
and, wow, i just defragmentated my systen with Perfect Disk and it does not appear anymore. cool .
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