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Old 07-12-2005, 06:15
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Well i have nearly 3.5 decades under my belt as im 34 years old, its not a waste of time IMO if i can help peeps, unless ofcoarse they are lamers and have a attitude problem, but he seemed ok.

I help run a irc channel and everyone turneds of the motd, nobody but anal peeps read rules or FAQ's fully, anyone who can say they always do is a liar, cause its human nature to be bit lazy and skip boring parts, anyhow your only one in thread that had bee in bonnet about helping him lol.

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Old 07-12-2005, 07:36
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@jhuk: Sorry about the age reference, then, as I'm only 31!

I've also been very helpful for many years, as a high school and university student, but then 1) I got a job and the amount of my spare time dropped exponentially and 2) I realized that it shouldn't be me spending my time with answering questions asked directly or indirectly at me, rather the people asking questions should educate themselves more, by reading relevant material on the Net, which is what the Netiquette also suggests. (Yeah, I do read docs and FAQ's, whenever I have time to, because I just love learning new things!)

In my opinion, the very existence of this forum, with the great amount of information contained in it, is already very helpful for newbies, so I see no reason to babysit them even more. With the current, frighteningly low level of education in general, people should learn to learn, otherwise the last generation of knowledgable people will die out in a few decades and the remaining idiots won't know how to do anything!

(Yeah, yeah, I know, it's one of "those" posts of mine again, sorry...)
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Well i have nearly 3.5 decades under my belt as im 34 years old, its not a waste of time IMO if i can help peeps, unless ofcoarse they are lamers and have a attitude problem, but he seemed ok.

I help run a irc channel and everyone turneds of the motd, nobody but anal peeps read rules or FAQ's fully, anyone who can say they always do is a liar, cause its human nature to be bit lazy and skip boring parts, anyhow your only one in thread that had bee in bonnet about helping him lol.

You sure seem to think you know how everyone acts and thinks. You "special"?

Joe is moderator also, although ive had my ups and downs with Joe, I respect him and you should too.

Even if I was right and he was wrong on those ups and downs :P
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Old 07-12-2005, 15:33
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1) I didnt know he was mod and i didnt abuse him in any way
2) Most impostantly GET YOUR NOSE OUT OTHERS BUSINESS, i was talking to the Organ Grinder not the Monkey .

You still claiming MS send you alpha/prebeta copies of Longhorn/Vista to your pc store LOL
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Oldies :P Start measuring your pulses and heart rates
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1) I didnt know he was mod and i didnt abuse him in any way
2) Most impostantly GET YOUR NOSE OUT OTHERS BUSINESS, i was talking to the Organ Grinder not the Monkey .

You still claiming MS send you alpha/prebeta copies of Longhorn/Vista to your pc store LOL

You told him in an early thread to stop repeating a msg, etc.

And its a public forum, everything you post is subject to reply's and views by other posters.

And yes, when your an MSCE you have this luxury, and owning a store gives you more power with MS, since they want you to sell their software in your store, so they send out beta's for testing and for future sales possibilities.

Its called running a business.
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Bollocks, MS dont ask for tester for alpha or prebetas all are internal only leaks get out, and at time you said this it was that timescale, i am part of the biggist alpha/beta irc network and we deal with MS, they dont just send out cd/dvds to peeps, you can sign up for beta testing and download or get media sent out, but not at time you claimed, so your full of it

Anyhow i thank you to keep out my going ons, the mod didnt have issue and nor did i, im here to anser questions if i can, and i dont care if its same Q 100x a day, esp as some peeps aint primary english talking they stubble into here.

If you want to try argue that you got longhorn alpha/prebetas sent to your shop by MS, come over to <edited>, there will most definately be MS staff lurking, but even i dont know who they are after 5 years there.

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See this where your wrong.


Are you an MSCE? is anyone in your irc channel an MSCE?


Just because your in an irc channel with people who run the channel, doesnt make them MSCE's or yourself for that matter.

Do they run a computer business of any sort? No?


Yes they DO send out betas to MSCE's and businesses. Its called promotion and with beta testing they can also iron out bugs.


Why shops? They have alot of hardware available to beta test the products correctly, unlike the individual end-user who on average only have 1 PC (some have more). So as you can see this is why they love Shops and Stores, and yes they do send them out, unless your not MCSE they wont be interested.


See when you pass your MSCE, you get the silly MS folder for discs, and they ask if you wish to participate in future beta testing, after all to get the MSCE your qualified enough to beta test.


Again this is a PUBLIC forum, whatever you post is subject to peoples replies and comments, you dont want people to butt into your posts, then use the PM system. Or stay in IRC and use /msg


EDIT: Bloody typo's :P

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@DABhand: Thanks for trying to defend me but there's no point in "winning" an argument only by saying "I'm a moderator so, by definition, I'm right" - even if forum rule #11 says exactly so, although, obviously, in a very different context... That would be using power instead of intelligence, which is disgusting; see politics for a "good" example!

@jhuk: As the current situation on this planet is, people DO NEED TO LEARN ENGLISH. Most software, including games, is in English; most Web pages are in English. So, what do you expect if you don't understand/speak English and try to use an international forum that called your attention to the fact, in the forum rules already, that it's in English only?

On the other hand, I always try to use simple English (partly because I'm too lazy to look up complicated words in a dictionary ) in my documentations. If you think the language of the FAQ is too complicated (I think not, but that's only one opinion), feel free to contact me (in E-mail, the FAQ is way too big for a PM!) with a simplified version of it. Thanks!
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Bollocks, MS dont ask for tester for alpha or prebetas all are internal only leaks get out, and at time you said this it was that timescale, i am part of the biggist alpha/beta irc network and we deal with MS.


You lot deal with MS? OMG yeah im sure MS love to give you stuff and serials for all to use.
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**** off you little prick, you know nothing, your a little asslicker in all the forums you use.

Yes MS do give us software, and tell us what we can or cant do with it, the serials need to be leaked, but they benifit 1000's of users testing instead of paying a few 100. you obv dont ahve a clue about #winbeta so unless you so STFU, i bet you got your face punched at ahcool everyday for being a little ponce.
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