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Found this posted on another forum

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To get this to work with the patch using only the game mounted in Daemon Tools and some registry modifications:

1. Find the 'Scsi Port #' key under HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\SCSI\ that corresponds with Daemon Tools (look at the Driver key for the Daemon tools driver name.) Either change the permissions to Deny everything for your user or group, or change the Driver value here to anything else. (Securom will look up the driver in another part of the registry so it doesn't fool it if you're not using the default Daemon Tools driver name.)

2. Find HKLM\System\MountedDevices and locate the registry key that corresponds with your virtual drive. For example: \DosDevices\G: is mine. Rename this key to anything else such as \DosDevices\G:.backup. Make sure that you do not deny any permissions to MountedDevices, otherwise Securom will indicate that a security module couldn't be activated.

3. Find HKLM\SOFTWARE\D-Tools and change the permissions to Deny everything.

If you still get the message about a security module that couldn't be activated, either you are denying permissions to something in the registry that you shouldn't be, you have another virtual drive program that it is detected whose presence you'll need to hide, or it's complaining about some other active program. For instance, if I have Regmon or NewsLeecher open, Securom complains. Why Securom would blacklist a Newsreader I don't know.

By the way, this worked for the latest FEAR patch as well. Some of these registry changes are reverted when you reboot and need to be reapplied. The change that hides D-Tools will prevent Daemon Tools from loading so make sure it's already running and change it back as necessary.

UPDATE: If, when you installed Alcohol or Daemon Tools, you kept the default names for the drivers, you'll need to uninstall and reinstall the software. This time, choose your own names for those drivers, because Securom is hard-coded to look for the default names. I uninstalled Alcohol and reinstalled it in expert mode (minus the StarWind iScsi service), choosing some random names for the drivers. Then I took the same steps I did for Daemon Tools (this time denying permissions on HKLM/Software/Alcohol Soft instead of HKLM/Software/D-Tools) and it worked.
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Can anyone confirm this method?
Also, the last "UPDATE:..." part is not clear. In that part you say you will have to re-install for instance Daemon Tools and assign a new name for the virtual device, but you can change the name in step 1's registry key and also in HKLM\SOFTWARE\D-Tools, which clearly reads the virtual drive's name.
So if we re-install daemon and assign another name, then step 1 is useless, right?
Also, if we deny the premissions, do we still need to reinstall and change the d-tools driver name?

Please someone try this and answer.

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Can you post a link to where you found this?
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I actually had this working for awhile, then I rebooted, set the permissions again, and it stopped working....

I found it here:
http://www.mgforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43012
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I actually had this working for awhile, then I rebooted, set the permissions again, and it stopped working....

I found it here:
http://www.mgforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43012
You had it working? then please, let me know:

1) Did you re-installed daemon and renamed the virtual drive, or did you just follow the 3 steps intructions??

2) On that forum link you posted (namely the original thread where this new "instructions" came from) I noticed some user said:

"By the way guys who have the game bought cant play it after the patch too Same problem....."

So the people that are playing it right with the original retail disk are having problems too?
That is weird, I thought it was only the case with backups.

If this is true, then atari will have to release another patch.

So please reply.
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Old 14-11-2005, 00:45
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Followed the instructions exactly, step 1-3 except instead of modifying the permissions on Daemon Tools, I modified the permissions on A120

I dont have Daemon Tools installed.
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Followed the instructions exactly, step 1-3 except instead of modifying the permissions on Daemon Tools, I modified the permissions on A120

I dont have Daemon Tools installed.
And did it work?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vedderx
Found this posted on another forum

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To get this to work with the patch using only the game mounted in Daemon Tools and some registry modifications:

1. Find the 'Scsi Port #' key under HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\SCSI\ that corresponds with Daemon Tools (look at the Driver key for the Daemon tools driver name.) Either change the permissions to Deny everything for your user or group, or change the Driver value here to anything else. (Securom will look up the driver in another part of the registry so it doesn't fool it if you're not using the default Daemon Tools driver name.)

2. Find HKLM\System\MountedDevices and locate the registry key that corresponds with your virtual drive. For example: \DosDevices\G: is mine. Rename this key to anything else such as \DosDevices\G:.backup. Make sure that you do not deny any permissions to MountedDevices, otherwise Securom will indicate that a security module couldn't be activated.

3. Find HKLM\SOFTWARE\D-Tools and change the permissions to Deny everything.

If you still get the message about a security module that couldn't be activated, either you are denying permissions to something in the registry that you shouldn't be, you have another virtual drive program that it is detected whose presence you'll need to hide, or it's complaining about some other active program. For instance, if I have Regmon or NewsLeecher open, Securom complains. Why Securom would blacklist a Newsreader I don't know.

By the way, this worked for the latest FEAR patch as well. Some of these registry changes are reverted when you reboot and need to be reapplied. The change that hides D-Tools will prevent Daemon Tools from loading so make sure it's already running and change it back as necessary.

UPDATE: If, when you installed Alcohol or Daemon Tools, you kept the default names for the drivers, you'll need to uninstall and reinstall the software. This time, choose your own names for those drivers, because Securom is hard-coded to look for the default names. I uninstalled Alcohol and reinstalled it in expert mode (minus the StarWind iScsi service), choosing some random names for the drivers. Then I took the same steps I did for Daemon Tools (this time denying permissions on HKLM/Software/Alcohol Soft instead of HKLM/Software/D-Tools) and it worked.
Do this and it will work, I GUARANTEE IT. I have tested it and it works. But its CRUCIAL that you use DAEMON TOOLS and when you install it you RENAME the virtual devices. The default names are "d347bus" and "d347prt" I think. Just rename them, and then do the 3 steps above.
To sum it up:

1. Fresh install of DAEMON TOOLS and rename the virtual drive (both names must be different from each other).
2. Go to HKEYLOCALMACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\scsi , and find your virtual device port number (there are usually 3 ports, and the virtual one is USUALLY number 3, it should read your virtual device name, if you named it "demon6", then you should see it there). DONT CHANGE THE NAME, just do the deny everything in permissions.
3. Do the same (deny everything) in HKEYLOCALMACHINE\SOFTWARE\D-TOOLS.
4. Go to HKEYLOCALMACHINE\System\MountedDevice and rename the virtual drive letter (mine is G: for instance) to G:.Backup.

Then the game will start.
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Only problem is - you lose your registrey settings AFTER a re-boot - or am I the only having this problem?
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another issue with mounting the mounteddevices key... try this if you dont believe me...

if you (like me) have usb sticks/usb drives/firewire drives/network shares etc.. blocking the mounteddevices will make attaching any unit fail, so all in all messing with the registry i think is a bad idea as it could cause various system failures, anti blaxx got a lot of crap about causing system problems in the past, perhaps a lot of the blame was due to this 'side effect'... food for thought i think, if you are going to mess with your registry, make a backup first always, and if you are going to add in usb drives etc after playing the game or whatever, remember to unblock the keys
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You can mess with the registry as long as you kow what youre doing, and you re-establish the previous values. If you comply with these 2 requirements, you will be more than ok.
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i dont get it
i denyed permission in the scsi
the d-tools
got alcohol removed!
and the monuted devices renamed,
and he saying that thing on the security module!.

do i need the advenced options? in the permission denying?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vedderx
Found this posted on another forum

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To get this to work with the patch using only the game mounted in Daemon Tools and some registry modifications:

1. Find the 'Scsi Port #' key under HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\SCSI\ that corresponds with Daemon Tools (look at the Driver key for the Daemon tools driver name.) Either change the permissions to Deny everything for your user or group, or change the Driver value here to anything else. (Securom will look up the driver in another part of the registry so it doesn't fool it if you're not using the default Daemon Tools driver name.)

2. Find HKLM\System\MountedDevices and locate the registry key that corresponds with your virtual drive. For example: \DosDevices\G: is mine. Rename this key to anything else such as \DosDevices\G:.backup. Make sure that you do not deny any permissions to MountedDevices, otherwise Securom will indicate that a security module couldn't be activated.

3. Find HKLM\SOFTWARE\D-Tools and change the permissions to Deny everything.

If you still get the message about a security module that couldn't be activated, either you are denying permissions to something in the registry that you shouldn't be, you have another virtual drive program that it is detected whose presence you'll need to hide, or it's complaining about some other active program. For instance, if I have Regmon or NewsLeecher open, Securom complains. Why Securom would blacklist a Newsreader I don't know.

By the way, this worked for the latest FEAR patch as well. Some of these registry changes are reverted when you reboot and need to be reapplied. The change that hides D-Tools will prevent Daemon Tools from loading so make sure it's already running and change it back as necessary.

UPDATE: If, when you installed Alcohol or Daemon Tools, you kept the default names for the drivers, you'll need to uninstall and reinstall the software. This time, choose your own names for those drivers, because Securom is hard-coded to look for the default names. I uninstalled Alcohol and reinstalled it in expert mode (minus the StarWind iScsi service), choosing some random names for the drivers. Then I took the same steps I did for Daemon Tools (this time denying permissions on HKLM/Software/Alcohol Soft instead of HKLM/Software/D-Tools) and it worked.
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No this will not workj wiuth daemon tools 4 this is the same procedure from Link Removed ? just got it working with 3.47

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