CRACKs missing.... What's happening with the latest games???

[Luciel]

Right glembo, you know more than everyone here, whatever, aniways, tottally out of topic, moved to chit chat as its not about a specific crack.

[ByteMare]

Ever tried to reverse a decent protection in a serious way? When done and having a nice "generic tool" (if possible) coded you really like to use it for a while instead of doing the whole session over again...it not getting easier and as I've pointed out a number of times before: The more info you give to the "public" the sooner the company get their dirty little hands on it and...yeah...expect a "update patch" coming out real soon...try your tool then...oh no! It's not working anymore! It can't do shít! All your unpacking/import fixing/API-stuff/rebuilding routines are worthless and you're back to day 1 again That's why ppl should learn the stuff from the basics, not put all their hopes in "automatic unwrappers" and the groups.

Nuff said

[TippeX]

no, what im saying is that there will be less crackers now who will release things publically because of the current changes in the law... would you be willing to risk losing all your kit and spending up to 3+ years in prison, as well as having to pay legal fees for your defence, and being sued by the bsa and so on just to release a crack so that the public can benefit from it? its far far too risky, think about it a little, look at the history of what happened over the years with the busts etc and now ask yourself why there are less cracks now than before

[ByteMare]

Yup, I know, I forgot to add the legal stuff The laws and the cops with their dogs are more than a hassle nowadays

[glenbo]

Originally Posted by TippeX

no, what im saying is that there will be less crackers now who will release things publically because of the current changes in the law... would you be willing to risk losing all your kit and spending up to 3+ years in prison, as well as having to pay legal fees for your defence, and being sued by the bsa and so on just to release a crack so that the public can benefit from it? its far far too risky, think about it a little, look at the history of what happened over the years with the busts etc and now ask yourself why there are less cracks now than before

well maybe but that is moving the subject more on to piracy and warez users/creators rather than making a nocd patch which as this site states you are legally allowed to use,so if that statement is correct then really your blasts have no substance.

[TippeX]

Originally Posted by glenbo

well maybe but that is moving the subject more on to piracy and warez users/creators rather than making a nocd patch which as this site states you are legally allowed to use,so if that statement is correct then really your blasts have no substance.

actually, even that is illegal now check the eula's and recent law amendments, hell clonecd etc is now deemed illegal in germany and it'll soon sweep to other euro countries and i didnt really shift topic to the illegalities of warez etc.. its more a progression on the conversation, although you insulting people and trying to make out that u know all is a bit annoying at times.. believe me there are other people on this forum that know a hell of a lot more than you do about the whole situation and topic...

[crnelyone]

Originally Posted by TippeX

no, what im saying is that there will be less crackers now who will release things publically because of the current changes in the law... would you be willing to risk losing all your kit and spending up to 3+ years in prison, as well as having to pay legal fees for your defence, and being sued by the bsa and so on just to release a crack so that the public can benefit from it? its far far too risky, think about it a little, look at the history of what happened over the years with the busts etc and now ask yourself why there are less cracks now than before

No, that is not the reason. Not at all. Without wanting to say anything bad about crackers or those who already were busted. There will always be ppl who just do it for this thrill of the possibility of getting busted. You know it has to feel damn good as long as you are out there and can think "**** them all i did that crack and they don't have a clue who i am". There will always be ppl who think proxys in US are anonymous and they could distribute their crack through them^^.

But what i think is the problem with "new crackers": it's harder for them to learn. The old crackers for ex. had MS-DOS with debug und text-only output.
They know what text is all about. But now? A kid clicks it colored buttons and sees nice icons everywhere. And then he starts a debugger or a disassembler and what next? TEXT! SHOCK!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! TEXT!!! what the hell is that??? No icons??? No graphics??? RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!

Alright those are maybe 70%.

And the others have the following problem: They want to crack their games like Splinter Cell CT. But they will have to begin learning with all the old titles from 10 years ago.
And that will take them some years. Then they will start learning Starforce 3 when Starforce 4/5 is already out. And they will never catch up. Because we all say it: Everything is crackable. It just may take a looooooong time.
Yeah but from new protection to another the time increases by a lot! So new crackers can never catch up.

So yeah i think there will only be the ppl who could crack (they don't do it anymore, do they?) and nothing will come after. Cracking is dead. Well you can still crack Shareware done by stupid programmers. But you won't be able to crack games anymore.

---------------------RIP Game Cracking--------------------

Just think about one thing: Some years ago we had 80486 66MHz.
Not enough MHz for copy protection.

Now we have DualCore X2 4800+

First Core 2.400MHz for the Game
Second Core 2.400MHz for the Copy Protection!!!!!!!

So do you really see a chance to beat it? MUAHAHA no. We won!
We are the Game industry and we f****d u all!


just joking

but take the facts and think about them.
Is there really a chance?

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by crnelyone

No, that is not the reason. Not at all. Without wanting to say anything bad about crackers or those who already were busted. There will always be ppl who just do it for this thrill of the possibility of getting busted. You know it has to feel damn good as long as you are out there and can think "**** them all i did that crack and they don't have a clue who i am". There will always be ppl who think proxys in US are anonymous and they could distribute their crack through them^^.

But what i think is the problem with "new crackers": it's harder for them to learn. The old crackers for ex. had MS-DOS with debug und text-only output.
They know what text is all about. But now? A kid clicks it colored buttons and sees nice icons everywhere. And then he starts a debugger or a disassembler and what next? TEXT! SHOCK!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! TEXT!!! what the hell is that??? No icons??? No graphics??? RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!

Alright those are maybe 70%.

And the others have the following problem: They want to crack their games like Splinter Cell CT. But they will have to begin learning with all the old titles from 10 years ago.
And that will take them some years. Then they will start learning Starforce 3 when Starforce 4/5 is already out. And they will never catch up. Because we all say it: Everything is crackable. It just may take a looooooong time.
Yeah but from new protection to another the time increases by a lot! So new crackers can never catch up.

So yeah i think there will only be the ppl who could crack (they don't do it anymore, do they?) and nothing will come after. Cracking is dead. Well you can still crack Shareware done by stupid programmers. But you won't be able to crack games anymore.

---------------------RIP Game Cracking--------------------

Just think about one thing: Some years ago we had 80486 66MHz.
Not enough MHz for copy protection.

Now we have DualCore X2 4800+

First Core 2.400MHz for the Game
Second Core 2.400MHz for the Copy Protection!!!!!!!

So do you really see a chance to beat it? MUAHAHA no. We won!
We are the Game industry and we f****d u all!


just joking

but take the facts and think about them.
Is there really a chance?

Nice post, at least you have a good idea of whats going on

I enjoyed reading that

[glenbo]

yes because dabhand says so.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by glenbo

all well in good,but i have to say

dabhand fuc-ks his mothers sh!tbox.

Oh your sooo kinky......pffff

Thought you was going to G.B.W.?

[glenbo]

what are you on?
why are you fake quoting me?

[DABhand]

Nice try, but admin and mods will say I quoted you quite accurately..

I just dont understand you, even after you were proved wrong I offered the chance for you to learn something, and you threw it to the side...

People like you have no hope.