GLH........please read.......graphics card stuff

[GLH]

I never overclock any part of my PC. If i want a faster CPU or a faster Graphiccard, i buy it.

My Battlefield 2 graphic settings are:
Resolution: 1024x768@60Hz (on a BenQ TFT-Monitor 17")
Quality: High
Terrain: High
Effects: High
Geometry: High
Textures: High
Lighting: Normal
Dynamic Shadows: Normal
Dynamic Light: Normal
AntiAliassing: Off
Texturesfilter: High
Viewrange: 100%

I have a AMD64 3500+ with 1GByte Corsair DualChannel Ram.

[Grumpy]

@GLH
Are those the settings you use for 'Online' play or for Single player? Do you use the same settings you use for single play for Online play?

[kosmiq]

Are you using AGP or PCI-e version of the 6800LE?
If it is the AGP version you could unlock the locked pipes and get much better performance. Similar to 6800GT, and then overclock to 6800U....

But you just buy if you need faster right? :P

[rekoal]

ok GHL what are the graphics like at the resolution? i think i might have to try it

my card is AGP, and yes i have unlocked the 4 more piplines and 1 more vertex shader to a success!

i play BF2 all on medium and at x960 resolution, i think i may have to try your settings now!

also GHL what are your clock speeds?

many thanks again

rekoal

also my system specs:

3.2HT P4
1.5gb ram
ge6800le

[GLH]

Originally Posted by rekoal

what are the graphics like at the resolution?

The graphics are good (enough) for me.

Originally Posted by rekoal

i play ... at x960 resolution

I can't choose the 1280x1024 resolution.
The highest available resolution on my system is 1152x864.
I don't know why 1280x1024 isn't available.

Originally Posted by rekoal

also GHL what are your clock speeds?

I don't know where i can get the values from.
I have the tool Everest HomeEdition V2.01 installed, but can't find clocks speeds.

[kosmiq]

RivaTuner is for sissies, real hardware modification (solder) is the only way to go. Gives higher success rate and works better.

rekoal is talking about 1280x960 which is the correct resolution (1280x1024 is NOT a correct 4:3 resolution). Your TFT monitor might not be able to handle any higher resolution than 1152x864 because of the TFT limitations. Any TFT monitor is made for a resolution and will give incorrect output if used with another. That is because of the relation between pixels and pixel resolution on the screen.
This means that if your TFT is made for 1024x768 that is the resolution to use. Guess why I newer bought one... 1600x1200 is minimum for me, going below that will kill me. To get 1600x1200 on a TFT I need one larger than 20" and that will cause 2 things: high price and high MS.

To check clockspeeds get Coolbits for nVidia Drivers or download any tweaking utility for your graphics card. Like RivaTuner or similar. That will give you the info you need.

[GLH]

@kosmiq:
My WinXP Desktop is set to 1280x1024 !!!

@rekoal:
I used RivaTuner:
$0100000000 Graphics core : NV40 revision A1 (8x1,4vp)
$0100000001 Hardwired ID : 0042 (ROM strapped to 0042)
$0100000002 Memory bus : 256-bit
$0100000003 Memory type : DDR (RAM configuration 06)
$0100000004 Memory amount : 131072KB
$0100000005 Core clock : 299.250MHz
$0100000006 Memory clock : 351.000MHz (702.000MHz effective)
$0100000007 Reference clock : 27.000MHz
$010000000b HW masked units : pixel 0101b, vertex 101000b

[GLH]

Originally Posted by kosmiq

Are you using AGP or PCI-e version of the 6800LE?
If it is the AGP version you could unlock the locked pipes and get much better performance. Similar to 6800GT, and then overclock to 6800U....

But you just buy if you need faster right? :P

I have the AGP version of the 6800LE. I've heard about the toll RivaTuner, but i don't like to make experiments to a well running system.

[GLH]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

@GLH
Are those the settings you use for 'Online' play or for Single player? Do you use the same settings you use for single play for Online play?

I use these settings for online & single-player.

[maciozo]

Originally Posted by GLH

Resolution: 1024x768@60Hz

Holy crap, do you have artificial eyes

[GLH]

Originally Posted by maciozo

Holy crap, do you have artificial eyes

I read in the monitor-manual 1280x1024@60Hz is the optimal setting. In a forum i read, when the TFT is connected via DVI there's no difference between 60Hz and 75Hz.

[DABhand]

I have to use 75hz for a sharper screen.


To Kosmiq, dont presume I dont know about overclocking, I own a PC shop, I know what the industry is all about.

But....

You are correct that CPU's have been downgraded in speeds although same components. BUT, there is a reason why they run at speeds they have been set.

You get a 1700 and 2800 XP chip, open it up I assure you it is NOT the same chips (if you have a strong enough microscope). The high end XP's come with extra resistors, etc. Which helps them work smoothly with high voltages which is set for their speed.


As soon as you overclock from the moment you switch on your PC, stress factors over your cpu is causing it degrade very slowly or a bit quicker depending on how high the OC is.

Eventually even if OC'd slightly the damage builds and builds. Not only will your CPU be damaged, but it can damage other components in your PC, memory being one as its being stretched to cope with the increase in CPU speed/voltage.


I dont care about normal OC'ers. its the ones who have to sell their faulty hardware later on to unsuspecting people, thats what pisses me off.

What pisses me off more, is when the little idiots come to my shop and try to act like they know more than I do. I have a simple answer to that.

"If you were so bloody good, how come your PC is in here then?"

Sorry but I find people who OC, are arrogant and think they know things when they dont really.

[maciozo]

Originally Posted by GLH

I read in the monitor-manual 1280x1024@60Hz is the optimal setting. In a forum i read, when the TFT is connected via DVI there's no difference between 60Hz and 75Hz.

ok, that sure calmed me down

[kosmiq]

DabHand, I know excactly what you are talking about but trust me, the reason this one has been relabeled is the fact that the 1700+ what more wanted by the market at that time.
It will run at 2800+ with no vcore changes at all, no hickups whatsoever and the guy that ordered them (he ordered 5, tried them out, picked the one he thought was 'best') did get the world record in Athlon XP overclocking. Or how about clocking that 1700+ (1.53GHz) to a whopping 3.02GHz? Of course with some serious cooling (not LN2 though)... Homebuilt... ehh whats the word in english? O crap can't remember, anyway there were cases with that **** built in that costed about 700$.

People that sell broken hardware do not deserve to own a PC. In that I am with you, but a perfectly working has-been-overclocked CPU I think is ok to sell.

And please, I am not a newcomer when it is about PC's. I have done my errors and I have learned the hard way. I have enough experience to fix my PC myself. I have no need to put it to a shop to get it fixed. I am also sure that you know enough about PC's to handle yourself and your customers...
If you have gotten the impression of me that I am arrogant and "think I know things" I will apologize right now. That is not the impression I am willing to make and not how I am IRl either. So sorry if that is the case.
Friends?

[DABhand]

Im talking about the majority not yourself who think they are better.


But dont forget there is different 1.7Ghz XP chips, two distinct family types