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Old 13-07-2005, 11:29
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[B] Any idiot profiting from the sale of that much pirated crap deserves a little jail time.. Hell at least a year.QUOTE]

I agree but this is not what he got arrested for. He got arrested for chipping an XBOX or more specifically from the article, "Under that directive, it is illegal to circumvent copy protection systems."

The selling of the stuff is just what got him caught.
Obviously that's correct, but then again I never said that's "WHAT HE GOT ARRESTED FOR".. I said that's why he "DESERVES A LITTLE JAIL TIME".

It was more of a personal view point.. And now that you touched on it.. I would've rather sent a man to prison for getting rich off of stolen goods than have sent a simple ordinary Joe installing a chip for what it was intended for... Backing up his expensive ass software to protect his investment.
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Yeah, he got busted for the wrong offence. In my eyes if you purchase a console you should be able to do with it what you want to. Be it installing a chip or getting mad and busting it into a million pieces .
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Well said Warlock, and that is my point.

I think most everyone that visits these forums, any of them to do with DVD technology, agrees similarily with that viewpoint. Yet everyone wanted this guy to be punished and serve time......but for what?

He was busted for installing a chip and copying games, not selling them. The laws, this particular one at least, isn't worded they way we woul like them.
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I can guarantee you he'd rather do time in jail than 140hrs community service which can only be done at a rate of 4 hours per week so will be hanging over him for 8 months.

A 2 week sentence with parole & tagging would have seen him released by the w/end!
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I can guarantee you he'd rather do time in jail than 140hrs community service which can only be done at a rate of 4 hours per week so will be hanging over him for 8 months.

A 2 week sentence with parole & tagging would have seen him released by the w/end!

I seriously doubt that.. I could do community service standing on my head even if it took forever to complete.. Rather that then getting a new boyfriend/cellmate I didn't want to begin with.
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Well said Warlock, and that is my point.

I think most everyone that visits these forums, any of them to do with DVD technology, agrees similarily with that viewpoint. Yet everyone wanted this guy to be punished and serve time......but for what?

He was busted for installing a chip and copying games, not selling them. The laws, this particular one at least, isn't worded they way we woul like them.
Erm may I quote this from the article?
"The man had been selling modified Xbox consoles which he fitted with a big hard drive containing 80 games. " Note selling, not meant as a flame, just saying.

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When you buy a computer you are free to do with it what you wish, you can change any component of it for something bigger, better and faster. I really cant see why people can not do this with their own xbox systems?
Though Xbox is considered a computer because its built like one ( and almost identical except casing), it's still considered a console like the PS2(which also is like a computer but not as much as Xbox). So, my point is think of it as opening you're cell phone and taking out the memory and adding a 50 gb laptop HDD with Halo 2 and stuff on it(though impossible and stupid, its a demonstration dude....).You're not supposed to do that because it's taking copyrighted material and illegally putting it on your phone and impossibly playing it on there without ,most likely, buying the software and paying Microsoft and WTF Halo on a cell phone?!?! If you could do that I bow down to your mightiness.

The verdict is, you could jack off every 2 minutes in your room alone and no one would know, but if you record yourself and sell it, *SOMEHOW* your family find out *MAGICALLY*. Bad example,yes, also nasty, yes.
Anyway you can do whatever you want with your Xbox (I.E put a porno skin on your Xbox) and no one would know,put games on the HDD, who cares , no one knows, but you, and your buddies(which hopefully REALLY are your buddies and won't rat you out for a pat on the back). Unless of course you start mass producing and selling it and advertising. You can sell an Xbox with an upgraded HDD no problem, but when you add the 80 games it's a problem. Like Grumpy said, you can modify it however you wish and you cannot be jailed, fined ,etc, but it violates TOS,but still no fine or jail, or the dreaded Com Serv. The reason you can't copy it to the HDD is how would you know you ACTUALLY bought it?("Erm, I uh lost it? No wait, My Dog ate it. Oldest Trick eh? Well, my cat ate it than.")
You have the ORIGINAL disk that you BOUGHT huh? Well guess what, if you had copied it to the HDD successfully, could you have possibly copied it to other HDDs in other Xboxs and sold it? How about if you copied it to the HDD and than put it on the internet for distribution? The internet is a vast place much like the Universe(only man made the internet, who knows who or WHAT made the universe,but I couldn't care less). And they lived happily ever after.

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" "This case sets a major precedent which marks a milestone in the fight against piracy," said games industry spokesman Michael Rawlinson. "
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