A real solution to the StarF**k virus for everyone.

[dajunka]

I hear you, but news and events entering the internet community are a very effective way of spreading the word, and each day because of the internet more people do become aware of the problems with SF, myself, I suffer with start-up and shutdown problems until SF is removed and other stuff that I haven’t noticed but has been reported on well known web site, problems like slow down in games and drive errors.
I’m glad that yourself and many others are happy with SF, but its up to those that are not happy to try and sort it out.
And I think maybe this is the chief role of discussion sites like this one.

What about the 10 million that boycott the game? 10 million customers is a lot to lose.

[DABhand]

It is pointless this is what im trying to tell you in the last thread, no matter what you try to do there will always be protections to combat piracy.

No matter who doesnt buy, aslong as they beat piracy that is their main aim.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Hey dajunka,

To generalize things, this world is turning into a police state. The government, the police, all executive authorities are indirectly getting into the hands of large monopolies, including but very much not limited to software/movie/music publishers (not artists/authors/developers!). Laws not defending the customers and authors (well enough) are only one symptom of this trend.

However, as you can see, most people - like sheep - are comfortable with the current situation because they don't understand what's happenning around them. A few knights of freedom won't change this, I'm afraid. Self-conscious and determined customers would; but they're almost non-existant.

Joe

[dajunka]

People are, boycotting games protected by SF for real, it’s not fantasy. And the publishers are quite aware of this trend as it is reflected in there profits.
What’s all this with Dream Catcher software publisher, where they release a hot game, not only minus Starforce but lacking any type of software protection what so ever. I am talking about the game Dungeon Lords recently released in the states. News is it started out very buggy but is getting fixed up nicely already having a patch out, all-in-all reports seem favourable and it looks like a hit.
But why has Dream catcher released this unprotected, when they are I believe a client for Starforce. Could it be that they are not only listening to their customers but also their bank manager.
I don’t think there is one gaming site that you can go to without some member or journalist slagging StarForce, it is becoming Common knowledge that this virus is bad and boycotting it is good, and the army grows not less but more.

If eveybody said; no body else is boycotting so why should I?
Then no, it wouldent work. But not all people seem to be thinking in this way.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Hi dajunka,

Well, if is true what you're saying, I'm very happy to have been wrong...!

Joe

[dajunka]

Hey Joe,
yep it's true, Ive spent hours, days, weeks even; serfing stuff on SF, and you wont beleive some of it. While there are a great number of people say they have no problems with SF, this is only what they assume. The truth is, it most likely is causing them problems it's just that they dont notice the problems.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/48427

I have read some real horror story’s especially the ones where some poor guy/gal loses their entire raid array, photos, docs, personal stuff all lost because of SF attaching itself to their media drivers and wuks up big style.

I have games here that have SF, but cant play them and the shop wont refund or exchange except for one of the same. my problem with SF is lockups on start-up and shutdown but alls fine after I clean all the SF zhit of my machine.

[Eagle]

I agree, boycott Starforce.
It sucks. It messed up my Alcohol 120%, it confused my old Plextor CD-R and classified all my (physical) SCSI drives as virtual ones.
SF is just a pain in the *ss. SF has gone way too far intruding users' computers and software.

Also all the efforts getting a SF protected game running from an image are just plain unnecessary and useless. NO ONE owning the original game would disconnect all his IDE stuff, attach a USB-IDE converter or use some other complicated and fancy methods just to play from an image.

I am sick of these SF discussions.

[Sensi]

Originally Posted by dajunka

And the publishers are quite aware of this trend as it is reflected in there profits.

Lol, ask Ubisoft and their starforce protected Splinter cell chaos theory, imho the trend is to make games protected with a real protection against leechers and that is truly working and reflected in their profits.
Who give a **** of what leechers boycott, you would have never bought it if it was not starforce protected anyway... and with starforce, if you really want to play a game without having to wait sometimes weeks for a crack, you buy it.
Moreover it is harder to sell a pirate version of a game with such a protection and that's also what a publisher wants from a protection.

Best regards,
Sensi

[Grumpy]

@Sensi
Lets just get one thing straight, I do not 'Leech' games!
I will not buy a Starforce protected game simply because of the 'Virus' like features it installs onto my system!
Some games are just not worth the headaches they give!

[CrossWire]

@Sensi
Buy it, Ha!, that' just the point, if I buy the game it comes with SF protection and that is what we don't want. If the game comes without SF then I for one, would not hesitate to buy any game I was interested in.
In short we don't want to pirate games with all there hacks and cracks and inability to update, we want to buy them, but the publisher though his greed wont let us.