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Old 31-03-2005, 07:41
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To response of Portugese guy, if the owner of the game says you can backup then yes you can, if they say you cant then you cant, simple as that, no matter your intepretation of the copyright laws :P

If you re-read them, it will say your entitled to backup software if your given authorisation from the owners to do so. If they didnt then you just cant make one, but you can if you wish aslong as you dont get caught lol
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Old 31-03-2005, 08:30
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Hey DABhand,

If the laws in the country you live in ALLOW you to create backups of any software then you MAY do it, no matter what the EULA of that particular software says. Do some research...

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Im afraid your wrong joe.

You asked me to read your laws, read them yourself and you will see what I said in my previous post about authorisation.
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DABHand,

I'm getting a bit tired, you know... A quote from Hungarian law, taken from a page of Artisjus, the very organization that protects authors:

Quote:
1999. évi LXXVI. törvény a szerzői jogról
(...)
59. § (...)
(2) A felhasználási szerződésben sem zárható ki, hogy a felhasználó egy biztonsági másolatot készíthessen a szoftverről, ha az a felhasználáshoz szükséges.
(...)
Meaning: Not even the EULA can take away the user's right to create a backup copy of the software, if that is required for (normal) usage.

[Edit] Oh yeah, and the constitution and other local laws have precedence over such company/person-to-company/person agreements... By the way, every software company is free to NOT export stuff to a given country. (It would be a stupid idea to do so, only because this "counter restriction", though...)

Next time, do me a favor, and DO some research, okay?

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P.S.: Yes, this isn't a full-English post, I know. You know why...
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Joe is correct!
When people or products are in a certain country they are subjected to the laws of that country which supersedes any other laws that may exist (EULA for example).

Let me give an example:
-Laws in Portugal like in most parts of the world states that you must drive in the right side of the road but if I drive with my car in United Kingdom for example I MUST drive in the left side of the road because I'm subjected the UK laws EVEN if in my country the law states that I must drive in the right side or if my car is prepared to be driven in the right side (the driver position is on the left).
This happens with ALL laws whatever they are and that includes copy protection laws!

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DABHand,

I'm getting a bit tired, you know... A quote from Hungarian law, taken from a page of Artisjus, the very organization that protects authors:



Meaning: Not even the EULA can take away the user's right to create a backup copy of the software, if that is required for (normal) usage.

[Edit] Oh yeah, and the constitution and other local laws have precedence over such company/person-to-company/person agreements... By the way, every software company is free to NOT export stuff to a given country. (It would be a stupid idea to do so, only because this "counter restriction", though...)

Next time, do me a favor, and DO some research, okay?

Joe

P.S.: Yes, this isn't a full-English post, I know. You know why...

What I see is this in that line.

An application may be backed up one per user per contract.

Im not great with hungarian but isnt szerződésben = per contract?

Which means EULA (your contract when you buy the software which you agree to when installing) is in effect, if they say no then you cant.

And also dont be nasty to others when you talk to them, you may have a triple post count, but that doesnt give you the right to talk down at me.
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Yeah, the CD checks were introduced in patches. However, this isn't the typical CD check since burning an ISO from the original doesn't work.

So there may maybe custom checks that is specific to the original CD structure.
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Hi DABhand,

I translated the original Hungarian sentence truthfully. As I'm Hungarian myself and, in my opinion, have a pretty good knowledge of the English language, please, don't think that you can translate it better than I do. Thank you!

As for telling you off, this is the second time you talk nonsense, without doing deeper research on the subject. (The first was http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=68431 ). Also, you might be George W. Bush (YUCK! ) himself incognito but, on this forum, yup, it _is_ the number of (useful!) posts that gives people some kind of ranking so you might want to be around a bit more if you want to argue with me...

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