Squad Assault No-CD request

[DABhand]

[QUOTE=ric_hornet]
P.S: I do own an original copy of Squad Assault but I do want to be able to play the v1.08 of that game without the original CD in my drive and furthermore I want to be able to have working backups because first it's my right (I do have the original) and second if the original CD get's any sort of damage that prevents it from working I will NOT get a replacement (or a refund) from where I bought that game (that why backups exists and are legal)![QUOTE]


1. Yes its ok to have a backup IF the agreement says so :P If it says your not to make one, then you cant :P Alot of people think they can backup everything they own, but its not always the case.

2. If your CD is damaged, you can contact the publisher and get a new CD for a fee or in some cases free. If the damage occurs within 30 days then you can ask for a replacement at your local store or a refund (refund is at the store's discretion if they want to or not).

3. Not all backups are legal, refer to 1.

4. It may take time for a no-cd to appear as it will have to be of interest to groups/crackers/joe bloggs, but if they feel the game is pants they may avoid it and some other person may send one out. But you may be in for a longgggg wait.

[ric_hornet]

Originally Posted by DABhand

1. Yes its ok to have a backup IF the agreement says so :P If it says your not to make one, then you cant :P Alot of people think they can backup everything they own, but its not always the case.

In the country where I live (Portugal) the copy protection laws states that you can have as many as Backup copies that you want IF you OWN the ORIGINAL.

Originally Posted by DABhand

2. If your CD is damaged, you can contact the publisher and get a new CD for a fee or in some cases free. If the damage occurs within 30 days then you can ask for a replacement at your local store or a refund (refund is at the store's discretion if they want to or not).

I own Squad Assault for more than a year now so I certain that I will NOT get a replacement copy or refund if my ORIGINAL copy goes CAPUT!

Originally Posted by DABhand

3. Not all backups are legal, refer to 1.

Check reply to 1. :P

Originally Posted by DABhand

4. It may take time for a no-cd to appear as it will have to be of interest to groups/crackers/joe bloggs, but if they feel the game is pants they may avoid it and some other person may send one out. But you may be in for a longgggg wait.

Has I said before I own the game for more than a year and the latest patch came out something like more than 5 month ago so I think I waited long enough (in order to make a request that is) :P

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In the country where I live (Portugal)

And thats the problem there. So many different countries with so many different law's covering the same thing. Then there's the same laws with little variations. The www has brought us all closer together but with the backing up side of things some people get confused as the rules on one site about it dont cover the rules elseware. yet ? Now we see the problem in all its glory (confusion). Sh*t i just managed to confuse myself and i had a understanding of the law in my own country @ least

[DABhand]

To response of Portugese guy, if the owner of the game says you can backup then yes you can, if they say you cant then you cant, simple as that, no matter your intepretation of the copyright laws :P

If you re-read them, it will say your entitled to backup software if your given authorisation from the owners to do so. If they didnt then you just cant make one, but you can if you wish aslong as you dont get caught lol

[Joe Forster/STA]

Hey DABhand,

If the laws in the country you live in ALLOW you to create backups of any software then you MAY do it, no matter what the EULA of that particular software says. Do some research...

Joe

[DABhand]

Im afraid your wrong joe.

You asked me to read your laws, read them yourself and you will see what I said in my previous post about authorisation.

[Joe Forster/STA]

DABHand,

I'm getting a bit tired, you know... A quote from Hungarian law, taken from a page of Artisjus, the very organization that protects authors:

1999. évi LXXVI. törvény a szerzői jogról
(...)
59. § (...)
(2) A felhasználási szerződésben sem zárható ki, hogy a felhasználó egy biztonsági másolatot készíthessen a szoftverről, ha az a felhasználáshoz szükséges.
(...)

Meaning: Not even the EULA can take away the user's right to create a backup copy of the software, if that is required for (normal) usage.

[Edit] Oh yeah, and the constitution and other local laws have precedence over such company/person-to-company/person agreements... By the way, every software company is free to NOT export stuff to a given country. (It would be a stupid idea to do so, only because this "counter restriction", though...)

Next time, do me a favor, and DO some research, okay?

Joe

P.S.: Yes, this isn't a full-English post, I know. You know why...