Scrapland by American McGee

[twinnie]

Originally Posted by BarryB

As for the German version not working with the English mini image, that's probably due to SF's CD Key being tied to the German game and CD, so you can't use another language CD as that will have a different CD key I think.

That's what i think too... but since the program asks me to provide another key... anybody has the cd-key of the english-version the miniimage uses?

[BarryB]

That's the point, it doesn't NEED a CD-Key as it's put on the disc during manufacture! The German game is checking the CD key on the disc and finding it's not the correct one as it's reading the CD key for the English game!

Nobody is going to give out CD keys anyway and is a breach of rules asking for one as well!

[twinnie]

I see... thanks anyway for the info.

[ZeroFlight]

I finally got it to work for me. I had the same problem with starf****r no running it. I tried both mini image files listed at GCW. The 73kb one said to insert disk 1 and the 63kb one said invalid key. I finally gave up on starf****r and used Starforce Nightmare. I have both optical drives on ide channel 2 and disabled it through Nightmare and used the 63kb mini image (the first one listed). Surprise! It works! Thanks for the help.

[EyeEgG]

Originally Posted by ZeroFlight

I finally got it to work for me.

Hmm, forgive me my bad english.
Itried @ll suggestions i found in this Thread (others too), but cant get it to work (scrapland).
I own the German-Version and is running (with original CD) on an AMD 64, i cant open it to unplug (New one with a Warranty-Lock? (if i can , i wouldnt do that-unplugging thing).
I tried all Tools , both Mini-images, dont works....
In Bios i cant disable it (there stands something about Native...)
But its crazy , from the beginning i had some Problems on my System, my Mouse is going "crazy" only in one Folder (own Data) i cant Mark one File , if i trie to Mark one File its like the Pointer of the Mouse is a Quad 250 x 250 Pixel , not only one Pixel size....
The Pointer-Problem was there, before i used any tools or minis, and only happens if i launch scrapland before i try to mark the File????
I find it so ***** , that the Starfishers can install Drivers (Software) that corrupts my System.
Is it not possible (SF updates with every Game new Drivers), to take a old SF version (that is working with mini-image) , and modify it to a higher Version , so that the actual installed Game thinks it is an old Version and dont installs new Drivers....(only thinking)...
Grettz

[ivanisevic82]

Hi guys!
Sorry for my english, I'm from Italy, I hope you can help me because I have a problem to use this game.
I make what you write and all seems ok, untill the protection of the game ask me for a cd-key....and I don't know what kind of key it need!

I hope to can resolve this problem, thank you for you help, bye!

[Grumpy]

@ivanisevic

the game ask me for a cd-key....and I don't know what kind of key it need!

It wants the CD Key which came with your original purchased game disc!
Hint: Its usually found on the CD Cover somewhere or On or in the Game Manual somewhere!

[BarryB]

I don't think this game needs a CD KEY, Morglum posted about how Starforce calculates an internal key from sectors on the disc, so put the wrong disc in and the key will be incorrect and pop a request for the key, even though it doesn't require one!

Some games DO need a CD key like TOCA 2, but some games ask because the CD is just the wrong one!

[Grumpy]

Hmmm, well as I dont actually have the game myself, I was just taking a calculated guess! I wasnt even aware it was a Starforce game! So you could say my guess was somewhat 'Miscalculated'

[ivanisevic82]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Hmmm, well as I dont actually have the game myself, I was just taking a calculated guess! I wasnt even aware it was a Starforce game! So you could say my guess was somewhat 'Miscalculated'

Thank you Grumpy!
So, if I don't find this key in a cd cover...I'll never can play....

Is very strange that I'm the only one with this problem...or better, not only me...I saw some post ago a German boy with the same problem....is a problem only for the european guys??

Are you all american??

Bye!

[Brainman2k]

i bought a copy of scapland (german). but after realizing, that its a starforce-game i sold the game. i hate starforce and therefore i do not want to support it by buying games protected with it.

...that tought me a lesson: to look for the copy protection BEFORE i buy the game...

[Grumpy]

@ivanisevic82
You would be better reading 'BarryB's posts above for a better answer about the CD keys. In this case its not the Key you would normally get with your original CD case or the game manual but the CD Key checking feature which comes with Starforce Protected Games.
I myself should have read Barry's posts above before telling you it was on the game Manual etc!

[Joe Forster/STA]

Hi ivanisevic82,

If you're having _any_ problem with your original CD/DVD, take it back to the shop you bought it at as soon as possible!

And, no, we're not all Americans; see the "Location" info of users; some of us _do_ enter the real location there. Bye,

Joe

[ivanisevic82]

Ok, thanks to everybody for your support.
I'm not absolutly sure to have understood all, my english is not so good and often is diffucult understend all!
...The conclusion of all discussion in basically...that is impossible for me to play without the original cd?

thx, bye!

[Stevi]

Where is NOCD for Scrapland ? I don't see it here on GCW... It's been out (cracked) 6 days ago, according to NFORCE