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Old 05-01-2005, 21:59
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Yeah, I kinda figged it was something like that.

I wonder if there's any way to trick the game into seeing the xp dll's that it's looking for, without actually having xp running.

I think the time is quickly approaching when the true w98 gaming enthusiast community is going to have to find a way to mod *or something* W98 so it can run stuff that's ment for xp only. It's gotta be possible - so the real question I guess then becomes, is it worth the hassle to do it in the 1st place.

The obvious path of least resistance is to just be a sheep and switch to xp like the rest of the numbskulls with no backbone that just follow the herd and deal with the devildealing-soul stealing horror that is microshi-ah-soft, but who's interested in taking the easy way out? The day M$ tells me I CAN'T play game X unless I do what they tell me and put the OS THEY say on my rig, that's the day I toss the rig and go to a playstation!


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And b4 you go and say m$ couldn't care less about forcing ppl to switch by making sure games are xp only, and that it's the game developer that makes that call - do a little digging into how M$ gives "incentives" to game developers and to parent companies of developers to make games that are xp (and soon W64 bit) only. And I'm not talking small incentives either - I'm talking about the kind of incentive that can make or break the decision that a game even gets developed in the 1st place. As with anything else, it always boils down to money and m$ is willing to throw LOTS and LOTS of it at game development BY OTHER COMPANIES - that's gotta tell ya something.

What it tells me is that anytime anyone or anything is willing to put that kind of money into something and NOT want as much publicity as humanly possible -due to their- "amazingly overwhelming humanatarianism and generosity" then there's something wrong with WHY they're doing it, and they'd rather not have to answer questions about it.
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The obvious path of least resistance is to just be a sheep and switch to xp like the rest of the numbskulls with no backbone that just follow the herd and deal with the devildealing-soul stealing horror that is microshi-ah-soft, but who's interested in taking the easy way out?
I have 3 system partitions on my HD: 98SE, Me, XP SP1. The system that runs all my games, without any exception, is XP SP1 . It even runs some Win95 games that doesn't run with 98. The worst system of the 3 is Me.

To play the games, I need to change my ATI driver each month - but only for XP, because there is no more certified drivers for 98 and the uncertified drivers from ATI are very buggy.

Note I said XP SP1. SP2 is another story . But I will soon make a 4th partition for SP2...

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Old 06-01-2005, 04:36
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Just curious as to why you even bother with ME? The other 2 i can understand.
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@MaPomme. Just curious as to why you even bother with ME? The other 2 i can understand.
I agree that ME is the worst of the three . On my HD, it's a very small partition, which I can restore very fast (one minute ! ). I use it only to avoid the traps of the installers : I install the software under Me, but put the software in another partition. I see and note what has been installed (registry and so on) and... I restore immediately the ME Partition as it was before the installation. Then I use the new software (but without the traps of the installers) on 98 and/or XP.

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Old 06-01-2005, 05:05
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Thanks Mapomme, thats sounds like a mighty fine idea! Not that I am going to do it but it does sound very logical indeed.
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Hey fixr,

Windows XP is based on Windows NT technology which is _completely different_ from the Windows 9X series, even if, starting Windows NT 3.51 I think, the operating system looks like the Windows 9X series and has a remarkably similar API (programming interface for applications)! So, making native Windows NT softwares to run under the Windows 9X series is completely out of question!

Just for the record, I have MS-DOS 5.0 (!!! ), Windows 98 (Gold Edition) and Windows XP Professional SP1, all on different partitions.

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making native Windows NT softwares to run under the Windows 9X series is completely out of question!
But making native Windows 9x softwares to run under the Windows NT series was very well done by MS with Windows XP. Amazing, a programming tour de force.

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Just for the record, I have MS-DOS 5.0 (!!! ), Windows 98 (Gold Edition) and Windows XP Professional SP1, all on different partitions.
I'm also curious : why MS-DOS if you have 98 ? You can go from 98 to DOS at boot time (98 is booting under DOS).

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