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Old 05-01-2005, 08:29
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U wont need to change the sx scex or s wire at all it should be the same on any ps2 modchip.

As for power you will need to change it unless you get a duo 2 caus they run on +5v like the magic chip does. All other chips run on 3v3.As for gnd/ground you dont need to change it.

I would advise you to take the extra wires of as the electric current can make a magnet force and could do damage to the motherboard. If you feel uncomfortable with installing a chip ask someone you know or a modchipper im sure they wouldnt ask much for such a simple job.
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Seaneyb, thanx a lot for helping me out! So do you think if I use a Duo2 (btw, are there any reports on problems and are there any major functions except non-flashability, autoboot and homebrew-stuff that duo2 does not have compared to MI/Crystal?) I could just connect the needed wires (including S-wire and PWR), and everything works? Did you check the Magic-Install-Link I posted? S has a different soldering point, you think that doesnīt matter? And could I possibly leave the spare wires in and just cut them directly above the MB-connection-point? And what about the W-wire of Crystal and MI, would I have to change my old W-wire-point?
Of course you are totally right that I should ask someone to do the install, but I donīt know anyone with soldering experiences personally, and the pro-installers over here donīt accept used chips and charge full installation fee even if wires are already installed. And also itīs kind of a challenge to do it yourself, donīt you think? So if you could possibly answer my questions? Thank you so much!
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that pictures actually wrong it doesnt matter where u put that wire if its connected to the brown reisistor or the black capacitor because there both conected together. Duo2 is a good cheap replacement and you wont need to change many wires. Well if you can send a ps2 to england i do it for you.
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Hey, thank you for your offer, shipping costs are unreasonable high though, and the more details you teach me the more I get the impression I should change the chip myself. But thank u anyway! Tend to the Infinity or Crystal (cause everybody recommends them), but still not sure about the W-wire. If I could leave it there I might get a Crystal, so I do not need to worry about the Y-wire. Is Z-point same point as TO (the big solder point directly to the left of the Magics Z-MB-connection)?
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just take it apart and do it then no point asking all these questions caus ur gonna get mixed up doing it caus ur thinking thats that and oh somethings gone wrong, just follow the diagrams you be fine

I like the duo 2 but otherwise id use matrix infinity
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Sorry seaneyb, reading through my questions I do realize I really punished you with a hell bunch of unreadable detail-stuff that must be f* annoying. Forgive me, m8. I just wanted to sort out if any micro-soldering on the mb is necessary or if itīs more the bigger points that need to be connected. So maybe if I decide to put in a MI I may ask the W-wire question once again in the forum, but for now I spare you my newbie-trash.
Thank you very much for your effort and your patience, you have been a big help!
I read the comments of the others on your installs in the Picture-Thread, felt disappointed that they criticized your wire-lenght etc. For me you are close to heroism, getting to work a modded PS2 by yourself!
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The TO point for the CC is not electronically equivalent to the Magic 3's Z point.

The Magic 3's S point is the same as the CC's SX point and Infinitys SCEX point and like seaney said all chips have the same SCEX point.

I cant tell you for sure if the W point on the Magic 3 is electronically equivalent to the W point on the CC or MI. I do remember once trying to find an alternate #5 point for the Apple Pro which is the same as the Magic 3's W point and was unable to locate one, so I would have to say they are different but dont quote me on that. I might be doing an install on a V7 tonight. If I do I'll check it out for you.

EDIT:Now that I think about it I can tell you right now the Magic's W point is NOT electronically equivalent to the MI or CC's W point. On the CC and MI the W point is a BIOS point on the Magic 3 the W point is a CDX point.

I would also recommend that you have a pro do this. Waiting and saving money so you can have it done right is better then a dead console.
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