HDloader v HDadvance (FAO lufcfan)

[lufcfan]

Yep, Tyler's hit it on the head there - that's why I said it...

[ajmi982]

not neccessarily supporting HDAdvance 2.0 here (still using my hdloader) but it does have some nice advantages.

More Advantages
When you look at the table below, you will see HDAdvance is better than other similar product:

HDAdvance 2.0 Other
What's inside the box 2 discs 1 disc
Largest TOC YES NO
Convert All Games Directly **YES Need to swap
with a larger TOC disc
Harddisk Support 40 - 200GB Max. 120GB


**Refreshing to a largest TOC size before reading the imports game disc is not needed since HDAdvance has already embedded with the largest TOC in the discs. So, it makes the process of converting imports game disc more easily.

[TylerDurden]

With HDLoader you dont need a high TOC for anything. Plus swap for what? Other than taking the HDLoader out and installing your game what other swap would you need?


HDAdvance is lame.





Tyler!

[spedmetal]

Originally Posted by ajmi982

not neccessarily supporting HDAdvance 2.0 here (still using my hdloader) but it does have some nice advantages.

More Advantages
When you look at the table below, you will see HDAdvance is better than other similar product:

[/I]

Dont take this wrong.......but you odviously dont have a clue! The HDAdvance 2.0 is nothing more then HDloader ripped and patched. In fact the new features they are boasting about in the 2.0 version as patches that Zero-X and the others have created for HDloader already which are free patches for everyones takeing!!!. The fools that are makeing the HDAdvance are marketing these features as there own, when in fact they didnt have shat to do with it! On top of that they are selling these features to you, which are free!!! All you have to do is simply get the patching app. and do it your self. Anyone foolish enough to purchase HDAdvance is simply misinformed!

[gtapex_trueno]

Exaclty what spedmetal said. Zero-X and crazyc, etc have all been making patches for the HDLoader that enables a bunch of new options (48 bit LBA/Larger Game List/Time Date Patch/etc). PS2Ownz is just using the patches and such and are coming out with HDAdvance 2.0 which is pretty much the equivalent of a patched HDLoader. The only reason I believe that PS2Ownz/HDAdvance has a higher TOC is b/c the duesh bags at PS2Ownz use swap magic or at least the swap method to play their games . (I'm pretty sure of this, if I'm wrong please correct me ) Don't support HDAdvance, you're just giving money to some selfish guys who don't deserve a damn thing!

[lufcfan]

Damn right!

[Warlock]

Ditto

[akahomeruk]

So apart from cost and the fact its (HDadvance) just a ripped version. Is HDloader technically better then advance?

I ask cause I just got my PS2 and it had HDadvance with it. Is it worthwhile trying to get hold of Loader or just stick with what I got?

[crazygamelover]

Originally Posted by gtapex_trueno

Don't support HDAdvance, you're just giving money to some selfish guys who don't deserve a damn thing!

I couldnt have said that better myself! Straight and to the point.
Nice quote gtapex_trueno!

[CousinFizz]

I have to thank the mods for letting this post stay open for one because in the past I couldn't get any answers about the differences... and 2nd now I understand why the Advance is not well liked. I have a HDloader and like it very much. It's sooooo easy to use and and the load times are great. A few games don't work with it but so what. I do need a bigger harddrive though. Hats off to you all....

[DJFury]

Can you load games with HDLoader that were installed on the HD using HDAdvance, or do you need to reinstall those games again?

[SurfDrifter]

Just a simple question though....
You say that you have to patch the HDLoader.
Doesn't this mean that your obliged to have your PS2 modded, so as to boot the patched (therefore burned on a DVD/CD) HDloader?

Therefore, ppl who want to use their hard disk WITHOUT a mod-chip can only do so, by buying HDadvance 2.0?

I can understand the thing about stealing/ripping, etc. (even thought i cannot dogmatically agree with you, because I don't know the background story behind HDloader and HDAdvance), but shouldn't the team of HDLoader "update" their product to these features, for the ones that don't want to mod their PS2?

If I'm wrong, please explain me. Thank you.

[CEOrko]

Just want to mention some things unmentioned so far(and a rehash of one that has been^,^;):

1) HD Advance 2.0 comes with 2 discs, but each has the same software, so essentially if you have to persons with HDDs installed on their PS2s they can both use the software at the same time.

2) The only reason there are two is to allow you to backup burned and import PS2 CD and DVD games without having to install a modchip in the PS2 which which is copying the games. (??? tell me if I am wrong so I can hang myself ^,^;)

3)The HD Advance 2.0 discs already have versions of the updates that can be downloaded separately for HDLoader, eliminating the need to mod your PS2 to install the files as you would have to do with HDLoader.

4)HD Advance 2.0 supports certain (hey, I only know it's true, I'm only using the official Sony HDDs as is) third party HDDs of sizes up to 200GB.

So it might (my uncertainty is a cry for support for either side of the comparison T.T) make sense for the more average gamer to get HD Advance 2.0 for a whole five dollars more as opposed to HDLoader and a mod chip (or a modded PS2 if you have shaky hands :p ) as it would be easier to get started. I have not yet used HDLoader, but I suppose that since it could likely have a wider range of compatible games it has more bang for your buck. Depends on the person's situation. Me, I'm happy that in a week I can test both HDLoader and HD Advance 2.0 against one another, or rather, just use them both. And I expect neither will be a dissapointment. ^^

Oh, and on a more obscure note, but one that may help those looking into purchasing HDLoader or HD Advance, both are unable to copy both layers of dual-layered DVDs. You need to install those games (Champions of Norrath, etc.) by hooking your HDD up to your computer and using your DVD-ROM/RW to install both layers of the game. Directions for this procedure can be found in the HDLoader FAQ located on the compatibility page for HDLoader at:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/casey.m...patibility.htm

Have fun. ^^

Oh, and it seems you can install import and backup PS2 discs by using the same procedure used to install dual-layered DVDs. Just a guess from adding up information seeing as how your DVD-ROMs will ignore region coding checks.