CONFIRMED - Race Driver 2 workaround guide.

[Morglum007]

Why SF only works with tricks like that is because its special drivers. SF hides and modifies the Windows IDE accesing in order to control the whole operation. Every way that hides GENUINE IDE conected to optical drives ( where the alcohol image is) will result in an image launching. This is why alcohol needs not to have IDE conected to a drive in order to work, or why by networking it works. (SF compares "spin" test on every drive in order to "know" if a drive is virtual or not, so no optical must be present in order to fool that test)

good luck!

[The Gauge]

Originally Posted by Morglum007

Why SF only works with tricks like that is because its special drivers. SF hides and modifies the Windows IDE accesing in order to control the whole operation. Every way that hides GENUINE IDE conected to optical drives ( where the alcohol image is) will result in an image launching. This is why alcohol needs not to have IDE conected to a drive in order to work, or why by networking it works. (SF compares "spin" test on every drive in order to "know" if a drive is virtual or not, so no optical must be present in order to fool that test)

good luck!

Hmmm... could you explain that last bit again, please? Are you saying that the SF protection modifies ALL your IDE drivers so, aside from controlling the access method on optical drives, it also knows if the "image" that's being run is coming off one of the other IDE devices, i.e. your harddrives? Presumably then, the SF protection runs, sees no optical drives, sees that it's not being accessed from one of the other IDE devices (harddrive), and proceeds as there are no other IDE devices to check? Hence the network image working?

This is very interesting stuff.

[t.foster73]

For all you electronics guys out there a question. Is it safe to wire an on/off switch into the 12v input of the IDE drive? Would this fool the Starforce drivers? (The drive will not appear in windows without 12 power).

[RincewindTheWiz]

Yes, it would fool the drivers, NO, I wouldn't recommend this. IDE devices are not hot pluggable, you might destroy the drives by doing it too much.

[KingPickle]

For all you electronics guys out there a question. Is it safe to wire an on/off switch into the 12v input of the IDE drive? Would this fool the Starforce drivers? (The drive will not appear in windows without 12 power).

You can test that out quickly. Just leave the side of your case open with the 12v unpluged. When you boot to windows, try puttin that molex back on the drive

[The Gauge]

Originally Posted by KingPickle

You can test that out quickly. Just leave the side of your case open with the 12v unpluged. When you boot to windows, try puttin that molex back on the drive

Heh... I'd seriously avoid doing something like this unless you're prepared to power-down the PC before you flick the switch.

[Morglum007]

@The gauge:

Well, i don't really know what do you want to hear about.
What i'm meaning is that SF ONLY patches the Windows Kernell if it finds optical drives connected to IDE. When remotely mounting, SF looks for another devices searching the SAME "protocol", and because is across a lan, no other devices are found to compare with. The same thing happens with SCSI drives. SF hides almost every CDB commnad for reading CD, cause most computers on this world have drives conected to standart IDE. I think Windows IDE drivers are not safe enough to SF, so it patches it in order to properly hide what it is doing.

Secondly, respecting what some people call "spin" test, SF can send some commands to any drive ( mounted or not) about speed. Remember SF loads even before Windows loading is complete, so SF can easyly find which unit is virtual and which no.

Well, about that electronics i have seen ( with some laughts (excuse me, it's only so funny for me ), well, the problem is windows, not the IDE (hehe) If you neutralize that, how will windows recognice your HD and so one? Only by avoiding SF loading with windows, you could try something that (:?) I do not recommand it.

Well, don't think if properly replied to.

good luck!