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Old 10-07-2004, 16:42
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I dont have a reason to lie, just wants to know u & other users that it works also on easier ways to copy and play SF-Protected Games..

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Old 10-07-2004, 17:25
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Does that old cdrom model happen to be a scsi one ? If so, this has been known for some time...
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Is this similar to some older CD-ROM's being able to play some SecuROM backups because they couldn't read Sub Channel data, so the SecuROM disabled itself to allow the game to play?

Does this mean my SCSI Ultraplex would work?

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Is this similar to some older CD-ROM's being able to play some SecuROM backups because they couldn't read Sub Channel data, so the SecuROM disabled itself to allow the game to play?

Does this mean my SCSI Ultraplex would work?
Don't think so, as SF only checks for the 2048 bytes per sector mmc command (28 00 00 XX XX XX) SF does not uses Sub in its checks, so any drive should launch it. Maybe error recovering? or just a very slowly drive to pass the 4 consecutive possition checks?..don't know......but sometimes happens...^^

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Old 11-07-2004, 03:17
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good morning :-)

Now i have take a closer look again at my old CDRom-Drive, found inside:
GOLDSTAR R580 (1997) ver1.05 (max speed 8x)
I didnt tried some other old Drives, but i think someone workz - someones not
BEYOND DIVINITY takes me 20min to install, but plays great.

I took it from one of my historical PCs :-)
90mhz *IoI*

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good morning :-)

Now i have take a closer look again at my old CDRom-Drive, found inside:
GOLDSTAR R580 (1997) ver1.05 (max speed 8x)
I didnt tried some other old Drives, but i think someone workz - someones not
BEYOND DIVINITY takes me 20min to install, but plays great.

I took it from one of my historical PCs :-)
90mhz *IoI*

greetz
You know why it might work? Drives of that era will not read CD-RW discs due to the old laser type in the drive. That may have something to do with it.

On a related note, do the copies still work if you install from a fast/modern CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive and only play the game from the old CD-ROM drive?
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I didnt install the games with my DVD-rom.

- Burned them with LiteOn DVD-RW
- Use WinOnCD6 DVD-Edition with latest 2 updates
- Maximal Read & Burning Speed
(I dont change any settings)
- Install the burned games with old CD-Rom Drive
- I didnt shut down DaemonTools and Virtual Discs or other Softwares
- Play them within the old CD-Rom drive

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