Singles 1.4 crack/nocd ?

[E_J]

Originally Posted by MrJones@dk

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I can provide orginal .exe and patch'd .exe and the old 1.0 crack if someone need it to crack the 1.4 .exe
*/

The person making the crack will also need the original CD-ROM because it is used to decrypt the executable.

[TippeX]

Originally Posted by E_J

The person making the crack will also need the original CD-ROM because it is used to decrypt the executable.

really? ;p a clone image will also suffice

[E_J]

Originally Posted by TippeX

really? ;p a clone image will also suffice

My experience with StarForce 3-protected games like "Singles" says that it won't suffice since a working clone image can't be made. However, please explain how to make a working image of a StarForce 3 game since you appear to know how.

[TippeX]

Originally Posted by E_J

My experience with StarForce 3-protected games like "Singles" says that it won't suffice since a working clone image can't be made. However, please explain how to make a working image of a StarForce 3 game since you appear to know how.

nope because if i tell you then everyone does it and then it isnt usable anymore is it.. same way theres no safedisc 3 unwrappers or securom ones available to the public, do some work it isnt that hard

[E_J]

Originally Posted by TippeX

nope because if i tell you then everyone does it and then it isnt usable anymore is it

That is a specious argument. If that were true, CD-ROM copying tools like Alcohol and CloneCD wouldn't be able to copy the latest Safedisc and SecuROM protections, and yet they can. However, neither of those programs can accurately copy StarForce 3 according to what I have read from others and tried myself.

The bottom line is that what I wrote above is effectively true. An original CD-ROM is required to create a crack unless you or someone else can prove that a working image can be made. An unsubstantiated assertion that such an image can be made doesn't change that reality for everyone else.

In addition, if you are unwilling to share your knowledge on this subject in this forum, then you should not be posting here. Posting vague assertions that a copy or crack can be made while providing no specifics to accomplish the task doesn't do anyone any good.

[ByteMare]

Because you can bet your ass that the big companies are watching this forum. Giving out specific details of i.e unwrapping the latest Sexxxurom and make sure that Sony has a niiice updated version ready for their customers next week...protections like SF are tough enough already, so if you wanna get *working* cracks, then don't give them any clues or ideas for "improvement"

[E_J]

Originally Posted by ByteMare

Because you can bet your ass that the big companies are watching this forum. Giving out specific details of i.e unwrapping the latest Sexxxurom and make sure that Sony has a niiice updated version ready for their customers next week...protections like SF are tough enough already, so if you wanna get *working* cracks, then don't give them any clues or ideas for "improvement"

First, I said nothing to Tippex about making a "crack." I asked him to detail how to make a working CD-ROM image.

Second, even your assumptions on cracks is wrong. Protections get updated anyway. If a crack exists for a game, that is all the proof which copy-protection developers need to change their protections. Case in point is that no public Safedisc unwrappers have been available since version 2.6 and yet SafeDisc has continued to be updated to the current version 3.2. The same has been true of SecuROM. The lack of public tools is no deterrent to updated protection any more than security through obscurity is effective in preventing attacks.

[TippeX]

i couldnt care less about what you've tried, i couldnt care less about me being unwilling to share to my knowledge to you (give me one good reason why i should give u the benefit from my research), vague assertions they are not, for safedisc and securom and laserlok for that matter the cdrom is NOT required to crack it, and an image of starforce CAN be made, its the driver thats detecting the image is 'virtual', the image itself is NOT bad do some work
as for me posting here, i didnt see a mod under your title, so your little rant stops there i think. as for tools being able to clone the cd's, ever wonder why alcohol and daemon have to be updated each time a new protection comes along? yep thats right, they have to change their code to handle any possible blacklisting etc each new version they have more work to do, as well as having to update their emulation code to cater for the new versions

[Morglum007]

TippeX wrote:

"vague assertions they are not, for safedisc and securom and laserlok for that matter the cdrom is NOT required to crack it" ---> right

"and an image of starforce CAN be made" ---> not always possible (latest sf versions will refuse to play if some emulation tools are running: even with the unplugged IDE)

"its the driver thats detecting the image is 'virtual'" ---> not 100% correct, the drivers just locks devices and block some cracking tricks, the 24 character key provides the info about the CD estructure, mounted or not.

ByteMare wrote:

"Giving out specific details of i.e unwrapping the latest Sexxxurom and make sure that Sony has a niiice updated version ready for their customers next week..." ---> Well, even with its forum spying, Sony have not changed its main protection routine since a lot of time. The last they have done is ofuscate the main securom routine, but thats not a problem.
SecuROM is the weakest code protection on the market, but a good one at a physical level. By now, they must improve a lot, and till Sf working, they must learn really really and really a lot. To be sincerely, i think SecuROM will not be a problem in a near future.

Good luck!