*FBI wants to tap in to Xbox Live*

[rms2001]

A far-reaching proposal from the FBI, made public Friday, would require all broadband Internet providers, including cable modem and DSL companies, to rewire their networks to support easy wiretapping by police.

The FBI's request to the Federal Communications Commission aims to give police ready access to any form of Internet-based communications. If approved as drafted, the proposal could dramatically expand the scope of the agency's wiretap powers, raise costs for cable broadband companies and complicate Internet product development.

Legal experts said the 85-page filing includes language that could be interpreted as forcing companies to build back doors into everything from instant messaging and voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) programs to Microsoft's Xbox Live game service. The introduction of new services that did not support a back door for police would be outlawed, and companies would be given 15 months to make sure that existing services comply.

"The importance and the urgency of this task cannot be overstated," says the proposal, which is also backed by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Drug Enforcement Administration. "The ability of federal, state and local law enforcement to carry out critical electronic surveillance is being compromised today."

Because the eavesdropping scheme has the support of the Bush administration, the FCC is expected to take it very seriously. Last month, FCC Chairman Michael Powell stressed that "law enforcement access to IP-enabled communications is essential" and that police must have "access to communications infrastructure they need to protect our nation."

The request from federal police comes almost a year after representatives from the FBI's Electronic Surveillance Technology Section approached the FCC and asked that broadband providers be required to provide more efficient, standardized surveillance facilities. Such new rules were necessary, the FBI argued, because terrorists could otherwise frustrate legitimate wiretaps by placing phone calls over the Internet.

[AXmichigan]

hooooly crap
now
xbox live really really does suck the

[Quall999]

seriously, if this is passed it would suck. Not only because of the prices that we will see and the privacy invasion, but also because backdoors will lead to high hacking privelages. I mean, just think, if something is online in the US and is a server, then it must have a back door. If someone somehow got access to the servers by the police listing or whatever....

I dunno if i want this to pass just to see it fail, or to be pissed that the fbi is looking at me play xbox if it passes.

[AXmichigan]

yea
if this passes
i dunno if it would effect xbox connect
i figure it probably would cuz the whole internet thing
if it does..
then ill disconnect my xbox from the internet
i dont want the fbi lookin in my box or anythin else i own
jsut cuz a matter of principle

[seaneyb2003]

Originally posted by AXmichigan
yea
if this passes
i dunno if it would effect xbox connect
i figure it probably would cuz the whole internet thing
if it does..
then ill disconnect my xbox from the internet
i dont want the fbi lookin in my box or anythin else i own
jsut cuz a matter of principle

bugga bad news huh
does this comply with the uk too.

[AXmichigan]

since xblive and xbconnect i believe are both in us for servers
id suppose so

[seaneyb2003]

doh!

[dude]

knowing blairs willingness to kiss up to bush if this does pass it won't be long before mi5/ mi6 want the same powers.

[seaneyb2003]

yea lol

[Pop Smith]

That would suck REALLY bad if this proposal passes, I would vote NO WAY because this would cause the freedom of privacy to go down, just because of 9/11 Bush thinks that he can be "king" of America and spy on everyone. I would not use the web or anything anymore if this was the case cuz, the FBI might get sue happy and decide to come after me for something i say.

FLUSH!!!!
(Thats the US economy going down the toilet)

[kcusscam]

Actually I don't think that this is exactly what most people are thinking, from what I read anyways. From what is posted it sounds like they want ISP's to setup "monitoring". By that I mean take a port where all the data aggregates and mirror it. This simply means that they will be able to "sniff" the traffic that is flowing through the network(s). Note (when a port is mirrored it is only allowed to send data, not recieve it). This means that they could only hear what was on the wire and not talk over it, although I am not sure how they would handel VPN with IPSEC, SSH, SSL, and other encrypted protocols. From a network engineers precpective this is something that would be moderatly easy to implement but as a security engineering would be completely unacceptable because even though servers and resources couldn't be touched it would open up an opertunity for "outsiders" to see what packets and frames are flying across ones network.

Just my 2 cents.

[AXmichigan]

u dont get it
once they start with the little things
theyll work theyre way up
more and more
think of a staircase

[Quall999]

lmao, then xbconnect will have to be hosted in the UK (if it isn't already) lol.

[seaneyb2003]

Originally posted by Quall999
lmao, then xbconnect will have to be hosted in the UK (if it isn't already) lol.

j

right any of u guys know how to get rid ove a sub seven trojan??? its on my pc totall un relevant.

[Quall999]

http://www.pspl.com/virus_info/trojans/subseven.htm
that's all i found. Uh, that virus is one of the worst