no must agree there they don't.my latest one is only 2 weeks old but must confess still went for pleccy mainly for reliability(ie.2 year unlimited burns warranty)and build quality.someone told me to get a lite-on but they are a pleccy anyhow!!why buy a skoda when you can have a volkswagon.each to their own with burners really i just find them a good all round burner for audio/psx/pc etc but not for use as a 1:1 copier of protected games which is technically illegal anyway(personal backup is a bit like 30000 cigs for own personal use when stopped at customs)