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Old 11-10-2002, 03:08
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Clone log for UT2003 disks 2 & 3, write speed is cosmetic as previously stated...

I 12:52:03 CloneCD Version 4.0.1.10 started!
I 12:52:03 ElbyCDIO Driver 4.0.1.4
I 12:52:03 ElbyCDIO.dll 4.0.0.1
I 12:52:03 CCDDriver.dll 4.0.1.10
I 12:52:03 ElbyECC.dll 4.0.0.0
I 12:52:03 Registered to: John North
I 12:52:03 Searching for SCSI/ATAPI devices...
I 12:52:04 Device Scan found 1 CD-ROMs and 1 CD-Writers!
I 12:52:26 Starting copy from LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 to C:\DOCUME~1\JOHNNO~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\IMAGE.CCD
I 12:52:26 Read Speed for Data Tracks: 4x
I 12:52:26 Read Speed for Audio Tracks: 4x
I 12:52:26 Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks: Yes
I 12:52:26 Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks: Yes
I 12:52:26 Fast Error Skip: Yes
I 12:52:26 Don't report read errors: Yes
I 12:52:26 Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner: Yes
I 12:52:26 CD contains CD-Text: No
I 12:52:26 Reading Track 1... (Blocks 0-321918)
I 13:11:12 Duration of operation: 00:18:45
I 13:11:12 Average Speed: 671 kBytes/s (3.82)
I 13:11:12 Reading finished!
I 13:11:45 Starting copy from C:\DOCUME~1\JOHNNO~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\IMAGE.CCD to LITE-ON LTR-24102B
I 13:11:45 Write Speed: 4x
I 13:11:45 Don't repair SubChannel Data: Yes
I 13:11:45 Amplify weak sectors: Yes
I 13:11:45 Write Simulation: No
I 13:11:45 Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes
I 13:11:46 Writing Session 1 LeadIn...
I 13:12:11 Writing Session 1 image file...
I 13:21:07 Writing Session 1 LeadOut...
I 13:21:14 Flushing buffers...
I 13:21:14 Duration of operation: 00:09:29
I 13:21:14 Average Speed: 1394 kBytes/s (7.92)
I 13:21:16 Writing finished!
I 13:23:04 Starting copy from LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 to C:\DOCUME~1\JOHNNO~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\IMAGE.CCD
I 13:23:04 Read Speed for Data Tracks: 4x
I 13:23:04 Read Speed for Audio Tracks: 4x
I 13:23:04 Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks: Yes
I 13:23:04 Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks: Yes
I 13:23:04 Fast Error Skip: Yes
I 13:23:04 Don't report read errors: Yes
I 13:23:04 Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner: Yes
I 13:23:04 CD contains CD-Text: No
I 13:23:04 Reading Track 1... (Blocks 0-294939)
I 13:40:18 Duration of operation: 00:17:13
I 13:40:18 Average Speed: 670 kBytes/s (3.81)
I 13:40:18 Reading finished!
I 13:40:33 Starting copy from C:\DOCUME~1\JOHNNO~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\IMAGE.CCD to LITE-ON LTR-24102B
I 13:40:33 Write Speed: 4x
I 13:40:33 Don't repair SubChannel Data: Yes
I 13:40:33 Amplify weak sectors: Yes
I 13:40:33 Write Simulation: No
I 13:40:33 Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes
I 13:40:33 Writing Session 1 LeadIn...
I 13:41:00 Writing Session 1 image file...
I 13:49:10 Writing Session 1 LeadOut...
I 13:49:18 Flushing buffers...
I 13:49:18 Duration of operation: 00:08:44
I 13:49:18 Average Speed: 1392 kBytes/s (7.91)
I 13:49:19 Writing finished!

I have no intention of entering into a long winded posting frenzy trying to prove that it worked for me, I use my backup version to play the game with my original stored away, purely to save finacial costs incase of damage, i'm sorry if you don't believe it I really am, but I cant prove it without breaking pirating laws by sending a working backup to someone who will qualify my post.
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Old 11-10-2002, 04:45
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how come your 4x write wrote at 8x ? also - thats not a 1:1 copy - AWS is checked.

Hi podunkviller, that's nothing unusual matey, my 24102B when using CloneCD does the very same thing. Does not matter if I select 1x write it'll still write at 8x, I personally think this is why the 24102B is having problems with the newer protections, it's writing way too fast ....
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Old 11-10-2002, 13:27
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Old 12-10-2002, 02:15
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Well, I don't know what you guys call 1to1 recording, but I bought UT2003 yesterday afternoon and decided first to make a back-up! Before doing this I read the threads in this forum and was not too confident of success.

I'm running WinXP Pro on a fairly old P3 with 480MB RAM and a GeForce 64MB graphics card. (not entirely state of the art for this game!). My CDRW is a Ricoh MP7163A which is not listed as capable of DAO RAW on Ricoh's website.

Anyway, I downloaded the latest Clonny from GCW and I already had installed the latest version of CloneCD. I put the CD1 in my DVD Drive (a fairly old Toshiba) and started Clonney. It detected the Securom protection and the nominated settings were automatically loaded into CloneCD and the copying to file started. At the end of this I did a staright burn. The 2nd and 3rd disks aren't protected so you can copy these normally.

From the copied CDs I installed the program in my second PC (a P2 with 300+MB) and it installed OK! There was some question about DirectX 8.1b, but after installing this it runs fine! I can't tell you guys how, or why - but it works!
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:24
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i dont know what 1.1 copying is either but i copied ut2003 2 days ago and no problem,i copied the 1st disc with cd clone and the other two with nero,i then installed it on my system with the backup cds not original and swaped out the .exe,its running sweet.

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Old 12-10-2002, 04:25
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oh yeah what is a 1.1 copy
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:34
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i dont know what 1.1 copying is either but i copied ut2003 2 days ago and no problem,i copied the 1st disc with cd clone and the other two with nero,i then installed it on my system with the backup cds not original and swaped out the .exe,its running sweet.

oh yeah what is a 1.1 copy


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a 1:1 copy is when u dont have to use a fixed exe in order to run your backup or have to select 'special' settings in Copying programs in order to make the backup run.
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:27
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I'm glad it's not just me who is able to copy it, it seems I'm nothing special then, that's OK with me, well done guys and thanks for letting others know you copied it and to those who mailed offering money for a copy NO CHANCE it's only £27 at http://www.playserver3.com/play247.asp?
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Old 13-10-2002, 11:49
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I'll tell you guys somethin' else. I resurrected our oldest PC this morning. It's a Pentium 2 350MHz. Not been used for one year! I updated the RAM to 256MHz and installed a copy of XP Pro that my sister won in a prize draw yesterday! It's fast enough - believe me!

I just finished installing UT2003 from the back-up disks. It took ages cause the CD-ROM is a 16 x. The CD speed makes it a little jerky, so I reckon to install the No-CD crack to see if it improves, which I'm sure it will!.

Now, according to the book of words the MINIMUM processor that can handle this game is a P3 or Athlon 733MHz. That's just bullshit and I'm wondering who is kidding who?
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So your running this game on your p2 350mhz, with all graphics options on and good frame rates?

I have a friend who has a p3 700 and it runs and looks like crap, trust me the processor and grpahics card make all the difference, im positive your p2 350mhz cant run this game, and if it does because it has a decent graphics card, it wont run it very well.


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Okay, you cannot make a COPY of the game... but at least VeNoM and Swenske are working on their DEAMON Tools...
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Old 20-10-2002, 01:40
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Hi podunkviller, that's nothing unusual matey, my 24102B when using CloneCD does the very same thing. Does not matter if I select 1x write it'll still write at 8x, I personally think this is why the 24102B is having problems with the newer protections, it's writing way too fast ....
if he had posted his burner in the first place instead of making me search through the log for it, i'd have realized why as well
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Old 07-11-2002, 12:13
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i have 1 that works fine till u pop the patch in then it goes west
other wise works sweet as a nut no worries any 1 got any ideas about the patch crash???

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Old 07-11-2002, 12:16
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you all can make a "near" by one to one copy
when you use TwinPeak!
a new cool Tool to patch the CCD Image from a Securom*new* V4.xx.xx copy!
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Old 07-11-2002, 16:28
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All this talk about simply copying Securom New makes me wonder : how are the guys in question sure that their discs are protected with securom in the first place ? With safedisc 2 there are some files in the main cd directory that you can look for, and clonyxxl recognizes them, but is there a way to determine that securom new was used ? I'm beginning to think that only some regions have protected cd's, and the others have unprotected cd's. To verify this we have to determine that the guys with easy copies that work, actually have protected discs. Can ClonyXXL scan for Securom New ? I've tried it a few times with my Warcraft III original, but it didn't find anything. I know for sure that there have been games in the past that came out with safedisc 2 in Europe and unprotected in the USA.
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