FINAL FANTASY M8 & 9

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have tried patching these games so they will copy and play but all i get when I put in in the station is the mem card/cd player screen........HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i HAVE TRIED CDRWIN, CLONE CD, NTI CD MAKER, WINON CD ETC, I am getting Patch Sucessfully applied but when i come to play the game I get either the cdplayer/ mem card screen or it goes black....