Tried a little test tonight with a few titles the would'nt load with magic 2 in pal v7 fitted a messiah 2 and took the magic 2 out and the games booted no problem (magic 2 is not a clone) , so im now wondering why some titles will not boot with magic 2 it must be fixable patch em or something as ive done around 20 or so magic 2 installs and im now getting people complaining as they are finding more & more titles that don't boot. Ive now know of around 15 titles that don't boot with magic 2 so if anybody knows the reason it would be great to know maybe charlie can have aword with a few people and find out , by the way charlie the adjustment method you rec worked a treat in the v7 i was having problems with thanks m8