Simple questions please answer

[jimmyps2dimwit]

Can someone answer these simple questions for me please.
I have a V4 with a messiah modchip.
To copy a PS2 game (DVD) can you just burn off a straight copy with a DVD writer or do you have to put a patch in first as you would with a PC game?
Can you copy a PS2 (CD) game with a CDRW straight off or do you have to put a patch in first as with a PC game?
Thank-you, I'm sure one of you fine people out there can answer these simple questions no problem.
Is there a really simple step by step guide to doing it somewhere for all games in general as opposed to individual games as I've noticed in the ripping section.
Thanx for all your help in advance.
yours
Jimmy