Copy Questions!!!!!!!!

Hi just thought i would rack the brains of all u clever people out there.

I am having problems copying psx games.
Can someone tell me if it is right what I am doing.

1. extract game to hdd using CDrwin.
2. apply patch if needed.
3. burn back to CD.

If this is correct it hasnt worked on about 3 games so far.

Also I have seen quite a few posts that if the game doesnt need a patch then I can just make a 1.1 copy using CDclone.

Please help as I am slowly gaining a collection of coasters!!!!!!!

DEANO