X-box player in a PC

[whoeverxxx]

I know a PC would never play an Xbox game but I was wondering if you happened to have an extra Xbox DVD player laying around and decided to hook it up to your PC, would you be able to read the files from an original Xbox disc for quicker and easier backup purposes?

[kosmiq]

Nope, would not work. The PC can not decrypt the data on the CD. That is why you must go through the xbox when making a backup.

[whoeverxxx]

Originally Posted by kosmiq

Nope, would not work. The PC can not decrypt the data on the CD. That is why you must go through the xbox when making a backup.

Aah, so its not the X-box DVD player doing the actual reading\decrypting of the files that a P.C. DVD player can't see.....

[kosmiq]

Nope that happens in the xbox bios during execution. Shame that is...

[Quall999]

It is not so much the bios, but the firmware on the DVD-rom. The bios decrypts the signature to play the original games (or bypasses it if a hacked bios).

PC's and Xbox's have completely different firmware. It's like trying to hook up a portable cd player drive to your computer. Your computer will not know what to do with the xbox drives once you plug them in. PC's don't auto-detect what the drive is, or read to see what the drive is. Devices tell the PC "this is what I am and this is my name". Then it looks for drivers for it.

Now, there are some talented people (release groups), who have more than likely hacked specific PC drive's firmware to read original xbox games. But, you won't find them anywhere on the net. It is just easier for us to do xbox->PC.

[kosmiq]

There are firmwares that can be flashed to certain PC DVD drives to make them read Xbox originals. But they will still only be readable through the xbox.

I am also pretty sure that the xbox bios will do some deencryption during execution due to the simple reason that the xbox games uses a 2048bit encryption. There is also a magic key that will remove all encryption, but so far noone has broke it. There are apps out there that will run a bruteforce operation in order to try to find the right key. Simply imagine the time that will take using brute force...

I doubt that some release groups has any hardcore modified bios that will read them on the PC. Why is that? Some other xbox hacker would've managed to do it and released it in that case. Remember the fact that most xbox hackers share their knowledge and instructions on how to do.
It has also came to my knowledge ( ) that there has been some scene bashing about not using correct images. That means incorrect placed files, meaning longer loading times when backuped.
There is an app that will first read the file layout from the original disc, save them to a file (sector start and sector end for file xxxx) and then when creating the iso from FTP'd files add them to the correct sectors in the image.
That app was all the bashing about... "Use this and do correct iso's ffs", that kinda talk.

Please do not think I am downloading illegal warez now, I am not and I am strongly against such things.