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Old 30-10-2003, 18:12
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Call of Duty Error

Ok, I bought game today, excited, got home installed and got insert correct cd-rom. So i went to activision/support page and found that is common problem.

They say the way to correct that is to uninstall Alcohol 120 and or Nero, because it runs a virtual tray that messes with the new securom copy protection. My question is this, is there any way i can make it so it doesnt see alcohol or nero? So i can play. I buy games that are good, i use nero to back up mp3's dont care if i have to uninstall that, but the alcohol i dont want to uninstall because i cant find my key and bought it over 8 months ago, not to mention i back up my cds on there and then have them on my HD in case i need them ever again.

This pisses me off, because i always buy games i like and now the anti copying **** they put on, wont work because i have alcohol or nero, which is my friggin right to have on computer. I dont get it, i want to return this game so damn bad, but love the demo's i have played and reviews of it, but come on, now i pay for a copy that wont work because i have another legal program on my computer, thats smart thinking on there part, cause it just makes people not want to shell out 52.99 with tax for a game that isnt even guaranteed to play when they get home, because they have a cd copy program on their machine.

If anyone could help me by telling me what i can do without uninstalling Alcohol i would appreciate, i dont mind taking off nero, cause i can just put back on later, but alcohol i cant do, unless i find key in my mess of papers that i print out daily. Any help or pointing to where i can would be appreciated. I will write activision a nice letter, thanking them for saving me 52.99 of buying game if i cant play it and i have to return it. Because in their infinite wisdom, they thought by messing with the people that actually by the game with some sort of cheat protection would make for a happy customer, while the person with some simple crack plays happily. Frustrating
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Old 30-10-2003, 18:25
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This is called "blacklisting", and is one of the ways game publishers like to screw their customers over. How to solve it ? First of all there are some settings you can change in programs like A120% and Daemon Tools, things like "Vendor Identification" and "Product Identification". Sometimes they look for device driver with the standard id for A120% to check for the presence of the program, so changing that might work. Most of the time you need a new version of A120% or DT to bypass the blacklisting. So wait for a new version OR hunt down that Alcohol key. That's all I can think of at the moment. Anyone know how to retrieve an A120% key from the registry ? Maybe that could work...
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Old 30-10-2003, 18:45
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Thanks for the help, that was fast and helpful, I will try those things or wait for an update, Im trying to find alcohol key now, if i do, i will just unistall for meantime. Thanks for the help, i appreciate.
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Old 30-10-2003, 22:00
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Return the game and buy it again later. This makes it very costly to the store and publisher to deal with returns. Neither will like it.

They will think twice about blacklisting legal programs if they have to deal with returns.

1 return eats up the profit of 2-3 games not returned. The handling and paperwork is very encumbering.
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Old 31-10-2003, 00:31
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That's right, make 'em pay for the crap they put out

I don't see the point of blacklisting nero, it doesn't use any form of emulation/mouting or? Don't have the lastest version, but..

Blacklisting is lame and totally pointless, I can already see the headlines:

"New securom deals with ALC120%"
"Alc120% workaround for Securom"
"Sony introduces Improved protection against Emulation"
"New version of Alc120% defeats All version of Securom"
"Sony sues makers of Alc120%"
etc. etc. etc.

Sad but true...
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Old 31-10-2003, 02:24
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I am about to order the game. However, I will not if they expect me to remove a legal program I paid money for (Nero)...


If anyone finds a way to bypass this, let me know. Otherwise, it's just one less game for me to worry about getting this month!
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Old 31-10-2003, 07:44
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That's right, make 'em pay for the crap they put out

I don't see the point of blacklisting nero, it doesn't use any form of emulation/mouting or? Don't have the lastest version, but..

Blacklisting is lame and totally pointless, I can already see the headlines:

"New securom deals with ALC120%"
"Alc120% workaround for Securom"
"Sony introduces Improved protection against Emulation"
"New version of Alc120% defeats All version of Securom"
"Sony sues makers of Alc120%"
etc. etc. etc.

Sad but true...
The last Nero I used allowed mounting an image, but I havent heard of it emulating a copy protection. So as far as I have experienced, Nero is useless with most copy protections.

Buy it and return it specifically saying that the game is incompatible with your computer. Does the box list the requirement of not having Nero or Alc120 installed?

After several thousand returns, they will surrender.
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Old 31-10-2003, 07:58
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I have both Nero and Alcohol 120% installed, and retail CoD is running fine on my box. They are not however, running any 'virtual tray' or anything else in the background. I simply don't let any app on my box run unneeded tasks in the background until I need it. (Except Windows )

Have you tried just shutting down any processes controlled by those programs?
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Old 31-10-2003, 12:51
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I have both Nero and Alcohol 120% installed, and retail CoD is running fine on my box. They are not however, running any 'virtual tray' or anything else in the background. I simply don't let any app on my box run unneeded tasks in the background until I need it. (Except Windows )

Have you tried just shutting down any processes controlled by those programs?
I tried shutting down all those processes and it did not work.
Interesting.

I rather not return the CD. The Demo is awesome.

Any other ideas from the GURUs out there?
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Old 31-10-2003, 12:58
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Infact, I have uninstalled all my CD burning media except my Clone CD v. 4.0.1.10

Reinstalled Call of Duty and still no go.

Any ideas?
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Old 31-10-2003, 13:16
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Clonecd is also usually blacklisted, try uninstalling that one too.
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Old 31-10-2003, 21:09
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Infact, I have uninstalled all my CD burning media except my Clone CD v. 4.0.1.10

Reinstalled Call of Duty and still no go.

Any ideas?
Hmmmmm, I heard a rumor that Lite-On CDRom drives were blacklisted too. But thats just rumor.
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i removed nero and alcohol and still the game freeze after a few minutes. I've somewhere that it had to do with the Pentium 4 processor.???

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Old 01-11-2003, 05:00
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i had same problem-fixed it with

after uninstalling all my burning software,virt.drive soft ware etc...
i have the fix... the no-cd fix i have copy if anybody needs it
or should i just post it???
it got me banned at unknown cheats . com
so i am a litte leery
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Dosen't NO-CD cracks, by pass the Blacklist check?
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