securom 4 not copyable EVER!

noonie449 · #1 19-10-2002, 03:54

Looking around the www it looks like securom 4 will never be copyable. The reason being it is impossible for a cd-r to write the same information from the master.
Securom sucks ar*e we should be allowed to backup our originals so why do these fuc*ed up companies make our life a hell?

P.s
someone prove me wrong!

JoyBoy · #2 19-10-2002, 04:46

You deserve a cookie. Enjoy.... for now.

themis_t · #3 19-10-2002, 15:55

hlapa hlaapa

docConda · #4 21-10-2002, 22:13

what cha talking about, I backed that shit up no problem

noonie449 · #5 22-10-2002, 01:30

Really, I would like to know how!!! Could you kindly explain what settings you used???

gh0sth@cker · #6 22-10-2002, 08:55

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Originally posted by docConda
what cha talking about, I backed that shit up no problem

Here we go again....
please understand that we are looking for 1:1 copies
Now please elaborate....

podunkviller · #7 23-10-2002, 23:39

he cant elaborate without lying

themis_t · #8 01-11-2002, 20:26

?

packer · #9 02-11-2002, 02:11

i dont think it is imposivbel. some poeple has had some luck on their side

podunkviller · #10 02-11-2002, 02:34

its a LOT of luck if it happens, mostly on the media side. you can burn all the information on the disk perfectly....but your copy wont work, as the track pitch is uniform. have you checked the DT MDS files?

gh0sth@cker · #11 02-11-2002, 04:06

Well there's hope at the end of the tunnel possibly. Working copy made here

podunkviller · #12 02-11-2002, 21:45

im too lazy to click that......does it involve blackcheck's twinpeaks.cpp? as i cant believe that works

gh0sth@cker · #13 03-11-2002, 03:45

They've tested about 6 or 7 games and they all work. But Venem stills remains pesimistic as he says Sony will have the problem sorted in an update at some point and we'll be back to square one.

HughBackov · #14 04-11-2002, 04:07

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Originally posted by gh0sth@cker
Sony will have the problem sorted in an update at some point and we'll be back to square one.

But, that will ALWAYS be true. The protection developers continually change their products to make them tough to defeat. Why do you think that Securom has made it up to v4 and Safedisc to v2.8?

I much better solution for making backups would be to provide tools or info to get rid of the protection altogether. Duplicating the copy-protection is not a good solution because the protections still require the CD to play and the copy-protections are incompatible with some drives. I personally have a couple of drives which are on Microsoft's list of drives that don't work with its games that use Safedisc. I have never see such a list published from Macrovision itself, but it is probably even larger.

So, does anyone know of any good tutorials on decrypting and rebuilding copy-protected executables, especially those encrypted with the latest Safedisc and Securom versions? The original CD can already be used to run the executable, but how can loaded debuggers like Softice be hidden from these executables so they can be used to dump and rebuild the executable?

gh0sth@cker · #15 04-11-2002, 08:34

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Originally posted by HughBackov
I much better solution for making backups would be to provide tools or info to get rid of the protection altogether. Duplicating the copy-protection is not a good solution because the protections still require the CD to play and the copy-protections are incompatible with some drives.

That's basically using a fixed exe - this thread is about making 1:1 copies which is the most ideal solution for people.