God of War/Gran Turismo 4 backup problems

[battybackup]

ive been tryin to backup god of war and gran turismo 4 but when i try to copy the disc it says the info contained on the disc is over 4.7gb, too big to fit on a dvdr. i know both programs are less than 4gb big as ive extracted them onto my ps2 harddrive but there not compatable and wont work.
is there a crack or patch to fix this problem?
i assume the TOC has been programed to do this and cause problems for backups.
Any info would be greatly recieved.

[Warlock]

GT4 and GOW are dual layed dvd-9 games. You need a dual layer burner to back these up or you can search around for a rip kit.

[battybackup]

whats a DVD-9? i tryed burning GT4 onto a dual layer DVD but the ps2 would,nt read the disc (using swap magic 3.6 with swap tool).
whats the difference between a normal dual layer DVD and a DVD-9?

[Warlock]

DVD-9 is dual layer media. To load a direct DL backup it must be patched before it will load unless your modchip supports DL media. Check this thread out http://www.fileforums.com/showthread...hlight=patcher. In your case even after you patch it it may not work with the swap magic. I know you dont want to hear it but you need a real modchip

[Tim-V]

Does DMS3 v9 support the DL-DVD? Also which DL-DVD bunrner should I get?cheap one? expensive one?

[battybackup]

is there any way i can get these games to work on my hard drive. they will convert onto my hard drive but wont load past the loading screen.
im using a maxtor 80gb hard drive with HD advance 2.0.