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Old 15-06-2005, 12:01
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Exclamation Cry out to all you programmers out there

Hello everyone,

I've read several threads 'n stuff.
A lot of the problems we seem to have are based on not getting a good copy.
I resent the fact that no single program seems to be able to make a real 1 to 1 copy. Eventhough some programs come real close. (like older versions of clonecd)

for as far as my knowlegde reaches the problem we are being faced with is that every copy program tell the cdrom to get file x. What starforce en all other "protection" programs do is scatter files or create gaps. Our burning programs put the files together destroying the structure of the original cd.
This is seen by the "protection" and therefore seen as a copy.

I could be wrong on the technical part but I'm pretty sure I'm right about not getting a real 1:1 copy.

So my cry out to all you programmers out there.
Could you guys make a program that does make real 1:1 copy's?

And please don't start crying about legal terms.
I've had games destroyed because of broken/scratched cd's
Wich were legally bought.
I understand a real 1:1 copy is heaven for gamers and not so for developers.
But I think I have the right to make a perfectly working copy.
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Old 15-06-2005, 12:27
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Our burning programs put the files together destroying the structure of the original cd.
If you mean Nero: YES.
If you mean Alcohol 120%, CloneCD 5, Blindwrite 5: NO.
They do 1:1 copys, not perfect,sure, but almost every copy protection can be bypassed by burning 1:1 or via using virtual drives (daemon)/cd-images...
(not talking about starforce 3 )
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a real 1:1 copy is heaven for gamers
sure...like i said with ccd, alc & BW it's "close to heaven" ^.^
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Old 16-06-2005, 01:21
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You will never get a 1:1 copy ever, unless you have the master disc and a big replicator machine.

Other than that no, some characteristics of CD's and DVD's cannot be replicated by being burned.
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Old 16-06-2005, 07:57
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Buy pirated copies from "warez factories" in China: they are making enough money on their business to buy such remastering and duplicator machines...
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A lot of cds & DVDs have things burned that normal retail cd/DVD burners cant do. Also a DVD+/-R is not the same as a retail one so its not 100% possible
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Cool

I just said it's possible to do a nearly 1:1 copy. Not every bit as the original but kind of close to it... A perfect 1:1 copy isn't possible even with a remastering machine or similar stuff except the original gold master...
But if you can burn SafeDisc to a normal CD and it works, it seems to be possible in a way... for sure not with securom which has got the infos needed to run the game at a place on the cd/dvd where no cd-writer could write anything...
but i also said that it's almost possible in every case to do this with a cd-image and rmps emulation or sth. like that. Or use Blindwrite, it emulates securom if you once installed the BW drivers, no need to run in the background...
So i didn't talk about "perfect copies" i just talked about getting close to it...

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