HElP Please

XxCrashxX · #1 17-03-2002, 07:42

Well lets see here first of all can I play burnt games without a modchip and if so does it envolve these bootcd patches

and yes Im a noobie

Diablosmatrix · #2 17-03-2002, 09:19

The newer DC's can't play burnt games without a modchip. The older ones can. I believe if yours was made after August 2000, then u can't play burnt games.

Now, the boot disk. Some games are made selfbooting and don't need the aid of a boot-disk. But if yours isn't self-booting, you can use Utopie's boot-cd instead of a mod-chip. Just download and burn it.

moofi · #3 17-03-2002, 10:20

hi!!!

ahem... you CAN play backups with EVERY dc on the market (except the ones being built before sep99, they can't read cdrs). if you got an old dc just burn the games downloaded from the i-net. if you got a new dc you have to work around a little bit... because the bios of the new dcs checks whether there is an audio-track at the beginning of the cdr or not, if yes, it won't load the cdr, so you'll have to burn the games (all i-net-releases got an audio-track at the beginning of the image...) with a data-track at the beginning, if you want to know how to do this goto this topic in the cd-rom-dc-forum

http://www.cdrom-guide.com/forums/sh...threadid=48940

i think i've explained it there very well... btw i'm a nube too, but i took the time to search the i-net for all this info...

so far...

cu moofi

Diablosmatrix · #4 17-03-2002, 10:50

your right, you can. But the ones made after Aug. 2000 have to be made different and its alot harder to do.

XxCrashxX · #5 17-03-2002, 10:55

I am about half a hacker this is not my expertize(spelling) anywho I got a a utopia boot sometin or other and burnt it by its self with clonecd and it wont read it due to the fact it treats it as a music cd also I have a gameshark image file could it work

moofi · #6 17-03-2002, 10:58

hmmm, alot harder... not really

because you only have to burn as the first track a data-track instead of an audio-track... doesn't sounds hard to me

AND if you follow my instructions in the posting linked above it's much more easier cause you don't have to learn/read all the things i did... (sry for partially bad english :/ )

cu moofi

XxCrashxX · #7 17-03-2002, 11:01

I didn't mean I burnt it as a music file the dc reads it that way how do I bybass it

Wayne · #8 18-03-2002, 05:34

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Originally posted by moofi
because you only have to burn as the first track a data-track instead of an audio-track... doesn't sounds hard to me

You know, I've been wondering if you could burn the entire game to the first session, in multisession mode, and then open a second session and just import the first session and burn.

That seems to be what the latest BIN2BOOT does. It has a session at the beginning which is the exact same data as is in the second session. This is what I discovered when examining the .CDI created by BIN2BOOT using CDMAGE.

If the above method would work, it would almost seem to be **EASIER** to burn a working disc using this method -- and Roxio Easy CD Creator will burn multi-session discs with imported sessions, so even it might work.

moofi · #9 18-03-2002, 07:44

hmmm, sounds interesting... and i remember my virtua tennis 2k2 or ufc -image was such a multisession image...
but how does this work?? do you know it?? is the 2nd session only a "link" to the first session? and why does the gdrom reads these cdrs... in the tech.-specifications it is said, that every gdrom (and these cdrs are gdroms for the dc) must have at least 1 track of 4sec, followed by the data-track, or am i wrong? (read it @ http://mc.pp.se/dc/gd-ws_txt.html )
hmmm, but i think burning a single short data-track instead of an audio-track is easier than this fake-session-stuff

because it's described quiet every selfboot-tut on the net... except the data-track thing... but this shouldn't be a problem...
but, tell me more about these dc-backup-version... when i've bought new cdrs i think i'll try this too

btw. do you think that the katana-copy-protection could be by-passed by this burning-method??

cu moofi

Wayne · #10 19-03-2002, 06:31

Actually, I think the images created by BIN2BOOT have the data in the second image and the first image is just an empty image with all the files linked in... Anytime I clicked on the files in the first session, it automatically bounced me to the second session in CDMAGE.