Best Compression Methods for 'Specific' Games. Q&A

[KaktoR]

To add something actually usefull to the discusion here and some information to the user LILU...

If using DSG you can add a additional parameter to xtool command line like ":lib_#" which just tells DSG to use another oodle library which might work better than the other which is actually the same version but not the very same version (if you know what I mean). To specify this a bit more, we can just take oodle library v2.9.10 for example. Currently we have two libraries of this version. The second one (named here as "core_2.9.10\oo2core_9_win64_2.dll") is a "leaked" library from the oodle SDK, which was never shipped by any game actually. This library will achive much better results then the other v2.9.10 library (in this case "core_2.9.10\oo2core_9_win64.dll"). This is simply due to the fact that the leaked library from the SDK has significant changes and some games were compiled with this specific library, so the other library doesn't work well simply because of the library code changes. But this also means that using the second library version inflationary does not give you automatically better results for games which were compressed with the first library. So this goes in both directions.

Included libraries in DSG are stored here: Resources\Win64\ADDONS\Libraries\Oodle\Oodle_Libs. 7z
There you can also see for which libraries you can use the additional parameter ":lib_#" (# = oo2core_#_win64_#.dll)

I suggest to use XToolUI (xtool.exe + xtoolui.dll) to test around with game files and different libraries so you know which library is the optimal to use. Some time ago I wrote some informations for beginners about this case. You should read this
https://fileforums.com/showpost.php?...2&postcount=23
https://fileforums.com/showpost.php?...8&postcount=24

[KaktoR]

Alan Wake 2
v1.1.1

 17:04:01 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:maw2:dd3+4x4:lzma
 17:04:01 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1b-01.bin was: xtool:dd3:l10,d128mb
 17:04:01 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1c-01.bin was: xtool:lm:c1500mb:mbik:mbk2:df20p
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 21:36:36 - Overall input size: 132.08 GB
 21:36:36 - Overall output size: 74.84 GB (Ratio 56.66%)
 21:36:36 - Overall conversion time: 04:32:33

Notes:
- I have extracted all the bink videos from the game files. In my previous test using plain xtool with bms plugin and bink plugin was not working correctly for some reason. That's why I extracted and removed the files out of the game files with xtool. I attached xtl file for which you can extract the files aswell with xtool (use xtool extract command). This is why input is bigger in this case. Normal game size is about 100GB + 32GB extracted videos. Like I said the 32GB video files were removed from the game archives so the zero'd parts of the game files will compress with like ratio 0%, so the result (output) is the very same like as you weren't extracting the video files.
- The attached xtl file is compatible with game version 1.1.1. As long as future game updates does not modifiy any of the game files (diff-like) this xtl file should work.
- xtool command order for xtl file: 1. extract, 2. erase, 3. decode (after install with xtl file).
- I decided to not extract & process WEM files because I was just too lazy, sorry. In the end it doesn't give a big size loss anyway. This is only important for repackers anyways, but they know by now.
- To make a bms plugin use the bms script with bms2xtl with the following settings:
SafeMode=1
LZ4=lz4hc:l9
input files: *.rmdtoc

[LILU]

CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.13 --------------------------------------------------------
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 17:48:16 - Deleting files from the output folder.
 17:48:17 - Files have been deleted.
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 17:48:17 - You have chosen the DVD9 type for the media size.
 17:48:17 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 17:48:17 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 17:48:17 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mkraken:core_2.9.10:lib_2+lolz:d111:mtt1:dtb1:mt12:ldmf1:dm34:gm00:mc1023:fba4096
 17:48:17 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1b-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mzlib:l10,d128mb
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 17:48:18 - Compression initialized in 13.08.2024 at 17:48:18.
 17:48:18 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 18:42:11 - Moving Data1a-01.bin file to media folder.
 18:42:12 - Starting Data1b-01.bin archive creation.
 18:42:32 - Moving Data1b-01.bin file to media folder.
 18:42:32 - Compression finished in 13.08.2024 at 18:42:32.
 18:42:32 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 18:42:33 - Getting size of the game: SNAP SNAP
 18:42:33 - » Installation folder size: 3,94 GB
 18:42:33 - » Data1a-01.bin file size: 2,72 GB
 18:42:33 - » Data1b-01.bin file size: 143,26 MB
 18:42:33 - » Compressed game size: 2,86 GB (Ratio 72.50%)
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 18:42:33 - Overall input size: 3,94 GB
 18:42:33 - Overall output size: 2,86 GB (Ratio 72.50%)
 18:42:33 - Overall conversion time: 00:54:14
 18:42:33 - Overall conversion discs: 1 DVD9
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CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.13 --------------------------------------------------------
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 18:48:50 - Deleting files from the output folder.
 18:48:50 - Files have been deleted.
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 18:48:50 - You have chosen the DVD9 type for the media size.
 18:48:50 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 18:48:50 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 18:48:50 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mkraken:core_2.8.14+lolz:d109:mtt1:dtb1:mt12:ldmf1:dm34:gm00:mc1023:fba4096
 18:48:50 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1b-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mzlib:l10,d128mb
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 18:48:51 - Compression initialized in 13.08.2024 at 18:48:51.
 18:48:52 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 19:42:41 - Moving Data1a-01.bin file to media folder.
 19:42:41 - Starting Data1b-01.bin archive creation.
 19:43:02 - Moving Data1b-01.bin file to media folder.
 19:43:02 - Compression finished in 13.08.2024 at 19:43:02.
 19:43:02 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 19:43:03 - Getting size of the game: SNAP SNAP
 19:43:03 - » Installation folder size: 3,94 GB
 19:43:03 - » Data1a-01.bin file size: 2,73 GB
 19:43:03 - » Data1b-01.bin file size: 143,26 MB
 19:43:03 - » Compressed game size: 2,87 GB (Ratio 72.91%)
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 19:43:03 - Overall input size: 3,94 GB
 19:43:03 - Overall output size: 2,87 GB (Ratio 72.91%)
 19:43:03 - Overall conversion time: 00:54:10
 19:43:03 - Overall conversion discs: 1 DVD9
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[LILU]

 CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.13 --------------------------------------------------------
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 22:41:36 - You have chosen the DVD5 type for the media size.
 22:41:36 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 22:41:36 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 22:41:36 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:c32mb:d1:mue5,k0xDFA62F3EE8304BBF7A6E153F2F88203F823C47BF0A690D3D4793FB3EFA624F3F:mmermaid:core_2.9.11:dd3:l10,d128mb
 22:41:36 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1b-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mzlib:dd3:l10,d128mb
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 22:41:37 - Compression initialized in 13.08.2024 at 22:41:37.
 22:41:37 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 22:56:24 - Moving Data1a-01.bin » Data1a-02.bin files to media folder.
 22:56:24 - Starting Data1b-01.bin archive creation.
 22:56:53 - Moving Data1b-01.bin file to media folder.
 22:56:53 - Compression finished in 13.08.2024 at 22:56:53.
 22:56:53 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 22:56:54 - Getting size of the game: Pine Harbor
 22:56:54 - » Installation folder size: 12,21 GB
 22:56:54 - » Data1a-01.bin file size: 5,98 GB
 22:56:54 - » Data1b-01.bin file size: 242,72 MB
 22:56:54 - » Compressed game size: 6,22 GB (Ratio 50.94%)
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 22:56:54 - Overall input size: 12,21 GB
 22:56:54 - Overall output size: 6,22 GB (Ratio 50.94%)
 22:56:54 - Overall conversion time: 00:15:16
 22:56:54 - Overall conversion discs: 2 DVD5
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[LILU]

CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.18 -------------------------------
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 19:07:56 - You have chosen the unlimited type for the output size.
 19:07:56 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 19:07:56 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 19:07:56 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mkraken:core_2.9.5
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 19:07:57 - Compression initialized in 18.08.2024 at 19:07:57.
 19:07:57 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 20:07:22 - Moving Data1a-01.bin file to media folder.
 20:07:22 - Compression finished in 18.08.2024 at 20:07:22.
 20:07:22 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 20:07:23 - Getting size of the game: Unknown 1
 20:07:23 - » Installation folder size: 12,98 GB
 20:07:23 - » Compressed game size: 44,05 GB (Ratio 339.48%)
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 20:07:23 - Overall input size: 12,98 GB
 20:07:23 - Overall output size: 44,05 GB (Ratio 339.48%)
 20:07:23 - Overall conversion time: 00:59:25
 20:07:23 - Overall conversion media: 1 custom media

 CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.18 --------------------------------------------------------
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 20:46:06 - Deleting files from the output folder.
 20:46:06 - Files have been deleted.
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 20:46:06 - You have chosen the DVD9 type for the media size.
 20:46:06 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 20:46:06 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 20:46:06 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mkraken:core_2.9.5:dd3:l10,d128mb
 20:46:06 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1b-01.bin was: leviathan:l9
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 20:46:07 - Compression initialized in 18.08.2024 at 20:46:07.
 20:46:07 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 22:10:28 - Moving Data1a-01.bin » Data1a-02.bin files to media folder.
 22:10:28 - Starting Data1b-01.bin archive creation.
 22:13:31 - Moving Data1b-01.bin file to media folder.
 22:13:32 - Compression finished in 18.08.2024 at 22:13:32.
 22:13:32 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 22:13:32 - Getting size of the game: VLADiK BRUTAL
 22:13:32 - » Installation folder size: 13,48 GB
 22:13:32 - » Data1a-01.bin file size: 11,27 GB
 22:13:32 - » Data1b-01.bin file size: 367,63 MB
 22:13:32 - » Compressed game size: 11,63 GB (Ratio 86.30%)
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 22:13:32 - Overall input size: 13,48 GB
 22:13:32 - Overall output size: 11,63 GB (Ratio 86.30%)
 22:13:32 - Overall conversion time: 01:27:24
 22:13:32 - Overall conversion discs: 2 DVD9
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[ZAZA4EVER]

Black Myth Wukong (Test)

Files Test (118mb)

pakchunk9-Windows.pak
pakchunk9-Windows.sig
pakchunk17-Windows.pak
pakchunk17-Windows.sig
pakchunk20-Windows.pak
pakchunk20-Windows.sig

Method Kraken (oodle file attached)

-moo2reck

Result

FreeArc 0.67 (March 15 2014) creating archive: Test.bin
Compressed 6 files, 124,449,258 => 346,014,047 bytes. Ratio 278.04%
Compression time: cpu 0.17 sec/real 52.03 sec = 0%. Speed 2.39 mB/s
All OK

[KaktoR]

This is v2.9.5

[ZAZA4EVER]

Originally Posted by KaktoR

This is v2.9.5

almost that, i take it from AC Mirage

oo2core_9_win64.dll rename it to oo2core_5_win64.dll

[KaktoR]

AC Mirage has no shipped oodle library Also for AC Mirage use 2.8.4 (same like Valhalla, both latest versions).

However fyi, for 95% of all newer games you can be safe of using oodle library 2.9.5. For the rest use 2.9.10 or 2.9.10 lib2 or even older libraries like 2.8.x (mainly ubisoft titles).

Here on this forum we have a grand collection of libraries which were collected over the years (some are missing, I have to upload them sometime).

[ZAZA4EVER]

Your old collection library you uploaded don't work with me
I tested it but as you said new library working

[KaktoR]

If you're going to use oo2rec tools you have to rename oo2core_8_win64 and oo2core_9_win64 to oo2core_7_win64 (or below) to make them work with oo2rec tools.

Btw, could you share some samples from that wukong game? Thanks.

[ZAZA4EVER]

Originally Posted by KaktoR

If you're going to use oo2rec tools you have to rename oo2core_8_win64 and oo2core_9_win64 to oo2core_7_win64 (or below) to make them work with oo2rec tools.

Btw, could you share some samples from that wukong game? Thanks.

I don't download the full game, I downloaded some sample files from a torrent
Sample files tested

https://www.mediafire.com/file/7ps2r...k7m/0.rar/file

[LILU]

CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.24 -------------------------------
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 20:54:55 - Deleting files from the output folder.
 20:54:57 - Files have been deleted.
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 20:54:57 - You have chosen the unlimited type for the output size.
 20:54:57 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 20:54:57 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 20:54:57 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin was: xtool:c32mb:t90p:d1:mue5,k0x6CEB3030D531EE99253A7E3A6F861F6BEC128D64ECC42B6957976502441DB42A:mkraken:core_2.9.5
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 20:54:58 - Compression initialized in 24.08.2024 at 20:54:58.
 20:54:59 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 21:04:04 - Moving Data1a-01.bin file to media folder.
 21:04:05 - Compression finished in 24.08.2024 at 21:04:05.
 21:04:05 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 21:04:05 - Getting size of the game: Robin Hood - Sherwood Builders
 21:04:05 - » Installation folder size: 53,82 GB
 21:04:05 - » Compressed game size: 55,58 GB (Ratio 103.27%)
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 21:04:05 - Overall input size: 53,82 GB
 21:04:05 - Overall output size: 55,58 GB (Ratio 103.27%)
 21:04:05 - Overall conversion time: 00:09:06
 21:04:05 - Overall conversion media: 1 custom media
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 CONVERSION DATE 2024.08.24 --------------------------------------------------------
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 22:09:41 - Deleting files from the output folder.
 22:09:42 - Files have been deleted.
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 22:09:42 - You have chosen the DVD9 type for the media size.
 22:09:42 - ISO images will not be created when conversion is complete.
 22:09:42 - The computer will remain on when the conversion is complete.
 22:09:42 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1a-01.bin (*.pak)was: xtool:c32mb:t90p:d1:mue5,k0x6CEB3030D531EE99253A7E3A6F861F6BEC128D64ECC42B6957976502441DB42A:mkraken:core_2.9.5:dd3:l10,d128mb
 22:09:42 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1b-01.bin (*.wav)was: msc_tak
 22:09:42 - Selected ARC/DS method for Data1c-01.bin was: xtool:t90p:mzlib:dd3:l10,d128mb
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 22:09:43 - Compression initialized in 24.08.2024 at 22:09:43.
 22:09:43 - Starting Data1a-01.bin archive creation.
 22:55:27 - Moving Data1a-01.bin » Data1a-04.bin files to media folder.
 22:55:27 - Starting Data1b-01.bin archive creation.
 22:55:29 - Moving Data1b-01.bin file to media folder.
 22:55:29 - Starting Data1c-01.bin archive creation.
 22:56:44 - Moving Data1c-01.bin file to media folder.
 22:56:44 - Compression finished in 24.08.2024 at 22:56:44.
 22:56:44 - Updating new files into the Setup.dll file.
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 22:56:45 - Getting size of the game: Robin Hood - Sherwood Builders
 22:56:45 - » Installation folder size: 59,67 GB
 22:56:45 - » Data1a-01.bin file size: 23,67 GB
 22:56:45 - » Data1b-01.bin file size: 25,88 MB
 22:56:45 - » Data1c-01.bin file size: 1,48 GB
 22:56:45 - » Compressed game size: 25,18 GB (Ratio 42.19%)
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 22:56:45 - Overall input size: 59,67 GB
 22:56:45 - Overall output size: 25,18 GB (Ratio 42.19%)
 22:56:45 - Overall conversion time: 00:47:00
 22:56:45 - Overall conversion discs: 4 DVD9
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[KaktoR]

Star Wars Outlaws

mermaid, any 2.7.x to 2.9.x library. They perform the same.

[hwang4]

Best compression ?