several games giving me backup problems

OSIAS · #1 20-01-2003, 16:59

just so u know i am not knew to making backups

i have successfuly backed up halo and splinter cell and mech assualt

i am having problems with star wars obi wan and rocky

has anyone else had problems with these 2 games.
is their maybe a patch or something i have to do before i ISO it?

see after back up the game loads just fine...
on obi wan i go to load any level and the loading bar stops at 3/4 and goes no further for any type of game or level.

for rocky it actually loads a loadup startup screen for the game and then says that the disc is dirty or damaged..

so whats up with that thought to make backups is a simple ftp in copy over create an iso and burn ...

so am i missing something here?

thanks in advance

or should i just reburn them and try again?

dude · #2 21-01-2003, 00:27

dude

i never create iso images for xbox games.
i use the method i am about to explain this has worked on 33 successfull games for me including the two you mentioned.

i first started off trying to backup by making xiso's it didn't work very well for me.
this is the method i use now to backup my xbox games.

1. connect to xbox using evox and flash fxp.
2 create a temp folder on my pc and transfer all game data from xbox dvd drive to this temp folder
3. start recordnowmax 4.50 and cancell the wizard
4. select file / new / data dvd.
from the top left hand menu bar.
5. when the burn window opens. i minimise recordnowmax and double click the temp file i previousley created (enter the file as normal)
6. select all game data in this file and copy it using left click on the mouse.
7. maxamise recordnowmax and paste all data in to the burn window.
8 press burn button and insert a blank dvd.
sit back and wait for burn to complete.

this method has worked perfectley for me each time and i have created 33 succesfull xbox backups with no problems at all.
hope this helps

later dude

OSIAS · #3 21-01-2003, 05:46

so ur saying screw making the iso and just copy the files straight up right?

if so do i have to use the utlity u use or will nero or the other burner work ..

if i must use urs for this task can u give me a link to where i can get it?

thanks !

also then how about EA sports games are these encrypted like on other systems or do they not bother with it because of the xbox's natural encyrption ..

again thanks ! will try

dude · #4 21-01-2003, 06:24

dude
i have not tried nero this way yet but you can get a 30 day trial version of recordnowmax 4.50 from the official site www.stompinc.com
these are the games i have copied all work perfectley and i have not used any thing like a patch at all

2002 fifa world cup
blade 2
blinx the time sweeper
buffy the vampire slayer
burnout
conflict desert storm
colin mcrea rally 3
dead or alive 3
dead to rights
enclave
fifa 2003
genma onimusha
halo
harry potter and the chamber of secrets
hitman 2 silent assassin
jetset radio future
lord of the rings the two towers
max payne
medal of honour frontline
oddworld munch's oddysee
project gotham racing
rocky
sega gt 2002
spiderman the movie
splinter cell
starwars obi-wan
starwars star fighter
the terminator dawn of fate
the thing
tony hawk's pro scater 3
tony hawk's pro scater 4
unreal championship
wreckless the yakuza missions

all are direct copies from pal format games which i own

OSIAS · #5 21-01-2003, 13:59

THANKS DUDE WORKS LIKE A CHARM!

dude · #6 22-01-2003, 00:34

dude

happy to help i'm realy glad it sorted your problem

later dude

OSIAS · #7 22-01-2003, 17:24

well it worked for rocky but i treid it on pazur dragon whatever and it didn't work didnt even partially load...

and their no default.xbe to make an xiso

is this something new maybe the dir looked alot diffrent then the other i have seen so far lots of sounds files and just files of course folder too but ussualy not alot of just files in the plain main dir..

oh well let me know what u think..

dude · #8 22-01-2003, 23:30

dude

if the default.xbe file is missing it will never load that file is essential without it you'r screwed

OSIAS · #9 23-01-2003, 18:20

well thats what i thought but i swear that it doens't have it?

are they maybe able to hide files?

are they doing somehting knew or is this embeded in the xbox os load methods?

well this sucks i will look again.. thanks dude

yeah all the others i have done keep working fine though..
so i know it works.. hmm

Quall999 · #10 23-01-2003, 18:58

All games have default.xbe's, and they are not hidden. If you don't have it, then you are missing the most important file in the game, the xbox executable. This file is what the xbox looks for to run the game. If you downloaded it, which i'm not saying you did, then you were screwed over because someone played a little joke on you. If you copied it yourself, then I suggest copying it again, or at least the default.xbe.

Segageo64 · #11 23-01-2003, 23:29

Do you have to have the X-box connected to the P.C. and\or use a modchip for the X-box to get a backup DVD X-box game to work this way or will it play solo with the backup copy?

dude · #12 23-01-2003, 23:33

dude

you need to have a network between the pc and the xbox to get the game info to create a backup.
however you don't need the xbox connected to the pc in order to play backups.
as long as you have a working chip thats all you need to play backups

later dude

Segageo64 · #13 24-01-2003, 06:34

Quote:

Originally posted by dude
dude

you need to have a network between the pc and the xbox to get the game info to create a backup.
however you don't need the xbox connected to the pc in order to play backups.
as long as you have a working chip thats all you need to play backups

later dude

Thanks for the info.
I might give it a try.

Some other things, I'm not quite clear on.
1. What modchip are you using?
2. Do you know if DVD+R blank disc will work?
3. Does all games fit on a 4.7GB blank DVD or do you need to alter the files to make them fit like most DVD movies?
4. I have the recordnow max program but where do I find the other two programs you talked about above to read the X-box hardrive through my network?
5. I already have my X-box connected to my router for X-box live, the two programs you mentioned above in conjuction with each other is all I need to read and transfer the data from the X-box and gamedisc to my P.C. harddrive?
6. Does X-box live still work if your X-box has a modchip installed?

dude · #14 24-01-2003, 07:06

dude

1.i am using a matrix mod chip i didn't fit it but it's reliable.
2.as far as i know dvd+r should work but i'm not certain
3.i have 33 backups and all fit on to dvd-r 4.7. tho only one i know to date which is too big is metal gear solid 2.
4.sorry dude i can't tell you on the forum for legal reasons.
5. yes thats it in conjunction with a mod chip
6. you can still use live but be very care full or you may kill your xbox see my post in the xbox section. named dashupdate.xbe warning for more info here http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44307

later dude

OSIAS · #15 24-01-2003, 09:17

alrightly then i guess the ftp transfer didn't fully get it i did it again and walla the file was their and everything worked fine.

thanks dude

wow this post went in a weird direction.