Good point - forgot to mention the imports (although I don't know how many people that applies too). Don't get me wrong, I don't think you can beat a Messiah and wouldn't do without mine (which is why I have 2 of them and only 1 Neo4

) but I don't think it's fair to tell a noob that it's crap and not tell them the pros and cons of both chips when they might need the DVD-Video scenario.
Never had any experience with an Origa as I heard they run hot - have heard of people doing a side by side Neo4 and Origa back when the Messiah was hard to get hold of... now that must be an install from hell!