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| Alochol 120% |
   
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3 | 33.33% |
| CloneCd VirtualDrive |
  
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2 | 22.22% |
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| Paragon CD-Emulator |
  
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| cdON |
  
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| VirtualCD |
  
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0 | 0% |
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#16
10-08-2003, 10:58
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attack of the clones
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10-08-2003, 11:28
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Why are they still making protections?
I mean, they know that one day its going to be cracked, and it won't be long till that day comes! They must STOP, and just release CD-ROMs with files on them, without any prtotection!
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10-08-2003, 11:45
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I guess they've got nothing else 2 do - and without them, CD copying software developpers would go out of business...
There will always B CD-protections, and engineers to defeat them. 'Tis the law of the universe, the titanic battle between Good & Evil...  Besides, unprotected CDs wouldn't be much fun to copy hehe... 
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10-08-2003, 14:02
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Unknown protection
C'mon folks
Let's not get paranoid shall we All of us here have the same goal: WORLD DOMINATION, right? uh wait...no, wrong subject... Anyways here's some flash news: I've just completed a dump...that took me almost 5 hours!!! I used clonecd version 4.2.0.2 Protection is unknown to Clonyx Clonecd read settings: max read speed, subchannel data & audio enabled (just in case), EFM disabled, fast error skip on 'automatic'. Game title: 'Inquistion' - european version (from 'Wanadoo'). I dumped CD1. CD2 is under way and seems to have the same protection, my CD reader has slowed down to a crawl... During dump, read seems normal until progress bar reaches 97%, then read speed drops down to 0.0 Kb/s !!! Looks like the CD is riddled with a new type of read errors -and a sh*tload of them  Indeed, read lasts for several hours, then at about 98% it resumes normally... When taking a closer look at the CDs (1 or 2) I can clearly see a ring near the outer edge, about 0.5 mm thick. My first guess was a recent version of 'Ring Protech' or something, but on second thought this definitely is a new protection, for this is the first time I've encountered, or even heard of, read-errors that cause such a slowdown. Normally when reading CDs with bad sectors (safedisk, laserlok, ring protech, protectCD-VOB, etc...) my read speed never drops below 0.5 Kb/s. Unless...perhaps there are different types of read-errors, and some can take MUCH longer to read than others  - if anyone could shed some light on this matter...Moreover if the dumps turn out to be faulty, I'll have to go over the same hassle again, nom de Dieu! 'tis the first time a CD dump has taken me THAT long. I'm off to the Net trying to look for a possible Xplanation, and see if others have had similar issues with that game, or another. If anyone could help me with this protection, or at least give a name to this new devilry, I would be most grateful...
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10-08-2003, 18:31
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IceBreaker - check out a thread called *StarForce 3.xx Investigation* in PC GAMES forum of FileForums (the thread is locked though) - they already released the new SECRET StarForce 3.xx that seems will be killing the "backup" industry...
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11-08-2003, 09:23
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Still seeing stars
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Although some have managed to making working images, and even working backups without emulation needed (!), the situation as a whole does look gloomy. This version of Starforce seems to work at a very low, almost hardware level since it can tell the difference between real and virtual drives - the @$£¤&%# bastards... Which means that even today's best CD emulators are not as stealthy as they should be: I hope we won't have to wait too long before the "backup" empire strikes back However, the 2 CDs I wuz dealing with were NOT Starforce. After having completed the second dump (took about as long as the 1st CD) I downloaded the latest version of ClonyX (2.0.1.5) which recognized the CDs as...Ring Protech!!! So this must be an even newer version. They must have devised a new type of C2 read errors that gives readers an even harder time grrr... Good news is, the burnt backups work, without any emulation needed. Bad news is, I'm not sure how to make any 1:1 backups of such CDs in a much shorter time. Indeed I tried making another image of CD1 using CloneCD's 'Intelligent Bad Sector Scan' option, default settings (100 sectors step). True, the dump was completed quite quickly (A little over 10 mins) but when running Nero CDspeed's surface scan on the mounted image, it showed me (slightly) more read errors than on the original CD! Which meant the second image, unlike the 1st which took several hours to make, was NOT identical to the original CD-ROM. So apparently, the only way to copy new Ring Protech CDs is the hard way, unless I can find a CD-reader that has VERY FAST error skip (and still does EFM encoding correctly)...
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11-08-2003, 13:12
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Which CD emulator actually works!?
I mean like a program you load into windows, which after youve copied cdrom files onto your hdd, you can then access them as if theyre being played by your cd drive. i've looked around myself for this thing, but the ones ive tried are made by people who suck, as none damn well work when you goto use them!!!! huh - I mean, if it dont work, then dont say it does!!!!!! just remove the damn crap from the web an dont waste peoples time.
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